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That pro white thread.
RE: That pro white thread.
(April 27, 2022 at 3:12 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(April 27, 2022 at 2:04 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: You didn't answer the question though. What if he runs again? Why do you let him run the 1st time but not the next time? What is the difference between the two situations? Him grabbing the cops weapon at home could result in his children, if he has any, being shot by the cops by accidental crossfire. You try to pick him up at work and he fights the cops there, you are putting his co-workers in danger. Why is that any better of a situation?

The difference is that he'd be in a familiar environment - people DO react differently in different situations.  Remember - in the interaction that cost him his life, he was on the street and clearly didn't understand what was going on. What follows is a not unlikely scenario:

Two cops go to his home and explain why they're there. They tell him that a number plate violation isn't terribly serious, but that he'll need to come along with them sort out the resisting thing. Understanding that he's not in a serious amount of trouble, he goes along quietly. His court appointed lawyer meets with him at the jail and explains his options. At his arraignment the next day, the court sets a modest bail and Mr. Lyoya is released pending a preliminary hearing.

See? Justice is served - Mr. Lyoya is now in the justice system and is going to have to accept whatever penalty society demands for the heinous crimes of 1) having a bad number plate and 2) being afraid of cops. The chief difference between what did happen and what could have happened, is that - in my scenario - Mr. Lyoya's two children still have their father.

Boru

Hopefully assuming that he doesn’t have PTSD from his time in the Congo. Looking up the human rights situation there, it’s honestly even worse than I would have thought. It’s the sort of place where not only do cops and the military act with complete impunity, they actually commit a majority of the unlawful homocides in the country, often for things like refusing to let them rape or rob you. Imagine if BLM's rhetoric about the police being a racist terror squad was, if anything, an understatement (though maybe not the racist part since they seem to do this to people regardless of ethnicity), and you start to get an idea of how bad it is.

Hell, imagine a version of the Dylann Roof shooting where instead of a Neo-Nazi teen that the police may be treating with kid gloves, it’s the local military doing it with impunity. That happened in 2006, had a higher body count, didn't even have any apparent rationale, and it's not even all that much of an outlier for them

I can’t be 100% convinced that it would have gone down as well as you suggested when that’s the sort of image he has of police (which is very likely, given how bad the situation he fled was), but at least it’s better than what actually ended up happening.
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That pro white thread. - by TheClearCleanStuff - April 20, 2022 at 8:53 pm
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RE: That pro white thread. - by Rev. Rye - April 20, 2022 at 9:20 pm
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RE: That pro white thread. - by Irreligious Atheist - April 27, 2022 at 2:04 pm
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RE: That pro white thread. - by HappySkeptic - April 28, 2022 at 12:04 pm
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RE: That pro white thread. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 30, 2022 at 5:48 am
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RE: That pro white thread. - by The Valkyrie - April 30, 2022 at 2:13 pm
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RE: That pro white thread. - by Irreligious Atheist - May 2, 2022 at 7:21 pm
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