RE: Leaked Supreme Court Decision signals majority set to overturn Roe v. Wade
May 10, 2022 at 10:59 pm
(May 10, 2022 at 10:26 am)Mister Agenda Wrote:(May 9, 2022 at 4:49 pm)Aegon Wrote: The fact that you didn't anticipate a guy like Trump after Obama shows you don't understand the problem with the Democratic Party as it exists today. Trump's election was a direct result of Obama's ultra-moderate agenda and lack of any genuine "change" that he promised on the campaign trail. Hillary Clinton was seen as an extension of the ultra-moderate agenda people took issue with, and so voters (stupidly) thought electing an "outsider" like Trump would result in real change - of course in America we have no inkling of class consciousness, so electing a billionaire was not at all electing an outsider, but whatever. I don't know where this idea of Americans preferring moderate policies comes from. It's just not true. People want legitimate change and most voters do not have strong favorable opinions of either parties, but rather see one party as better than the other.
And the same thing that happened in 2016 will happen now, with abortion rights, as people correctly point out that the Democrats have not attempted to do anything about it.
I knew a Republican would likely get the White House in 2016 after a two-term Democrat, I just thought Trump was too extreme and clownish to get the win, but a lot of small factors (plus the one big factor Republicans galvanized to turn out after 8 years of Obama) aligned to get him in office despite his opponent geting millions more votes than he did. It could easily have gone the other way, that was one of the things that was so frustrating about it. The only thing the Democrats dropped the ball on was some of them (like me) thinking there was no way an asshat clown like Trump could beat Clinton and voting for alternate candidates (one of the small factors that aligned in Trump's favor).
I don't know why so many people can't seem to absorb the fact that the majority of Democrats are moderates. The same thing happened in 2020, many progressives were sure a moderate like Biden couldn't win the primaries, let alone the presidency. I know the feeling, when I was a Libertarian I really thought Ron Paul had a shot in 2012, but I was in a bubble with too many Libertarians in it.
Fiscally moderate. The majority of Democrats may not all align with the left on all social issues, but generally even the moderate Democrats are more open to being liberal on social issues. Fiscal issues… not so much. At least, if the polls I looked at are accurate. Liberal fiscal policy is lagging behind liberal social policy support overall according to polls.
Roe V. Wade fits squarely in the social issue category, though. So one thing conservatives can’t do with this is try to run with the socialism boogeyman argument.