(June 4, 2022 at 2:12 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote:(June 4, 2022 at 12:18 pm)Irreligious Atheist Wrote: Like sports for instance. "Trans women are women" is simply just not a valid argument when it comes to sports, because there are different sub groupings of women, and the activists I think know that they are using manipulative language here to try and prove their point. It's irrelevant that trans women are women when it comes to sports, because women's sports were not created because of anything to do with identity or gender, but rather sex.
So trans women and sports are what worry you.
The thing with sports is that sports have never been fair. Like take ageism - you have to be young to compete in sports. Then look at physiques - tall people are pretty much the only ones who can play basketball. Big strong guys play football. People with long legs are best at running. People with bigger feet are better at swimming. And majority of people are disqualified from the start from ever being in professional sports just because of their physique which is normal.
And money also plays a big role since the richer some sports club is, the better players they can buy and outcompete others. So you'll never see some small-town basketball club competing with like Lakers, or just a poor basketball club competing with Lakers.
And yet you don't cry about any of that although it's much more unfair.
One guy has to be better than the other guy. That's what sport is about. Determining who the superior man or team is, through competition. You are misinterpreting things by thinking that anyone ever wanted everyone to be a robot who has the exact level of talent. That's not what we mean by fairness, and you are taking things far too literal to try to make some silly gotcha point that just isn't there. Is it wrong for a 30 year old to join a league of ten year olds and dominate them? You won't outright say that it's wrong, but you know it is, and this just goes to support my point. Different leagues and levels and divisions exist for good reason. There's a reason a 30 year old is not allowed in a league of ten year olds. Biological women's sports were literally created in the first place, because women could not compete with men, period, so we gave them their own thing. Can we at least recognize this reality? And now you want to take spots away from bio women, because on the victim scale, they fall below trans people, so therefore their concerns are thrown to the wayside and considered unimportant.