That Trans Thread

[Irreligious Atheist]

Trancel culture was the original subject I brought up in the thread, so I'm just bringing it back to that by responding to Nudge's accusation of "anti-trans". Even if you put JK Rowling aside, I personally think trans women are women, and I was attacked just the same as JK Rowling for saying that cis women getting r worded and impregnated in prison is worthy of note. The response I got was, like I said before, similar to that of a Muslim extremist who isn't going to tolerate hearing about FGM, and I was told that I hate trans people for even talking about it, and a few posters basically said that women getting r worded and impregnated in prison is acceptable because they could get r worded by a bio woman too, which of course is the exact same thing. Like I said before, it's a cult, and if you break even one tenant of the faith, you get burned at the stake. Yes, people going on about trans in bathrooms are being way over the top, but something like a prison is a whole other story, as you're stuck with the people around you, and SA will happen.

Basically the mantra is "trans women are women", which is a true statement, but the activists use this language in very manipulative ways at times. Like sports for instance. "Trans women are women" is simply just not a valid argument when it comes to sports, because there are different sub groupings of women, and the activists I think know that they are using manipulative language here to try and prove their point. It's irrelevant that trans women are women when it comes to sports, because women's sports were not created because of anything to do with identity or gender, but rather sex. I think JK Rowling is worried that if she concedes to the points that I have conceded to, about trans women being women or whatever else, that it will just make things easier for the activists to argue for throwing cis women under the bus or not taking their concerns into account because their concerns are going to be taken less seriously, because trans women have the trump card of threatening to kill themselves if we don't give into their demands, and cis women really have no card they can throw down to really compete with that.

The problem with bringing up women being raped in prison by trans women is, well, cis women rape each other in prison fairly regularly. And before you bring up that it’s different because trans women can get impregnated by their rapists, you do know that men can be members of staff in women’s prison, right? And that said men can and frequently do sexually assault female prisoners and get away with it?

It's terrible that male prison guards do that, but you're basically saying, and I definitely don't think you're meaning to sound so harsh, but you basically seem to be implying that since male guards rape female prisoners, therefore it's whatever that prisoners with penises are also raping them and knocking them up. This is just one wrong piled up on top of another, and you're certainly making things even worse for bio females by allowing women with penises, and in some cases women with penises who are sex offenders, into women's prisons. Just because some really bad stuff has already been happening in women's prisons, that doesn't mean we should therefore allow even more harm to be caused to these women just because we think they're thick skinned and can handle it because the male prison guard rapists have already gotten them used to this behaviour and trained up to endure it. And yeah, I certainly don't think you can compare getting fingered by a female prisoner to getting knocked up with a human life inside of you, but what do I know. I'm not a survivor of SA.