(June 24, 2022 at 11:28 am)Divinity Wrote:(June 24, 2022 at 11:11 am)Jehanne Wrote: Ha! Most political violence has come from the right-wing nut jobs. We don't need to go down that path.
I don't think we should resort to violence, but we should arm ourselves for self defense if necessary.
When pro choice advocates said, "If women started carrying guns to protect their uterus, the GOP would suddenly be for gun control", they said that sarcastically trying to point out how sick the GOP's position was. But now, even though nobody wants it to get that point, there will inevitably be those who will.
@ Jehanne , you are extremely well intended, and everyone reading this would love for everything to remain peaceful. But we have seen in our species history open societies fall and it starts with small chipping away of institutions and systems, like boiling a lobster slowly. Year after year the GOP has proven consistently that it is only concerned with keeping power and being the only power. It doesn't even have to be about abortion. GOP supporters who still support the orange fuckface, should be very aware that they will not stop with liberals or progressives. Trump has proven time after time he has no problem letting those in his ranks swing in the wind and hang themselves and throws his own under the bus as soon as he doesn't see them as useful or a threat to his power.
He has unfortunately set the stage, that even if he does not win in 24, a calm non bombastic Republican politician won't act outwardly bat shit nuts, but still be willing to stab anyone in the back to keep power. That politician will be far more dangerous than Trump.
So when it comes to abortion, you cannot make it about one topic when the long term is a trend, and not a good one. At some point a society that wants to maintain it's checks on power, and political pluralism, they have to stand up to that abuse of power, otherwise we end up like North Korea or the Taliban. Open societies do not fall overnight.