Why does science always upstage God?

[Aegon]

Oh, I see what's happening here. You're thinking with your ego. I'm not trying to insult you when I say that, it's a common perception error.

You know... back in ancient Nordic times, they didn't have an explanation for thunder and lightning. So they made up Thor. Of course, we are far more knowledgeable than humans of past so our unanswered questions are much grander than "What causes lightning?" Instead, we've moved on to questions like "What prompted the beginning of our universe, of spacetime as we recognize it?" But you must see that, logically, you're making the same blunder the Nordic people did. Maybe the universe is actually eternal and what we perceive as its beginning is not the true beginning. Maybe the universe has been born and died countless times over an unfathomable amount of time, and this is just the current iteration. Maybe the Everett interpretation of quantum mechanics is true, and there are an infinite number of realities where the universe doesn't "get it right" and no life exists, while we live in one of the other near infinite realities where it does. But filling in the gap of knowledge with God is irrational because countless times in our history we have proven supernatural theories incorrect. Just like the Nordic people who believed they invoked Thor's wrath when it thundered, those who believe in Genesis are just as silly imo.

The universe didn't "know" to get things a certain way. The way you're thinking about the universe, on a fundamental level, is egotistical. You're projecting. The observable universe is 92 billion lightyears in diameter and contains billions of planets and sextillions of stars. Of all those planets, I'm sure there are millions of "fine-tuned" Earth-like planets, and I'm betting many of them have intelligent life too. But you can also see the sheer number of lifeless planets, the ones that either will never be like Earth or perhaps were once like Earth. Take Venus as an example - it used to be like Earth. Now it is one of the most dangerous atmospheres in the solar system. Venus was once "fine-tuned," then suddenly it wasn't. Just like the Earth! There have been numerous times throughout the planet's history where it went from being "fine-tuned" and habitable to being entirely uninhabitable. You oversimplify the process so that you can make it look silly to attribute the development to anything other than God, but a lot happens over billions of years! It's not science fiction. I don't get what you mean when you say that.

Also life on Earth is fucking hard even when it is "fine-tuned." Do you think it's the perfect planet? For most of human history, all of our time and energy were spent purely on survival. We were small nomadic groups just trying to eat and fuck. Wild animals, insects carrying disease, earthquakes, landslides, floods, tsunamis, hurricanes, tornadoes, bacteria... the planet is actively trying to kill us. Not to mention that meteors from fucking space could render the planet uninhabitable overnight (as they already have done in the past).

A bunch of blah-blah never explaining how you got around the laws I gave, then...

"Maybe the universe is actually eternal and what we perceive as its beginning is not the true beginning. Maybe the universe has been born and died countless times over an unfathomable amount of time, and this is just the current iteration. Maybe the Everett interpretation of quantum mechanics is true, and there are an infinite number of realities where the universe doesn't "get it right" and no life exists, while we live in one of the other near infinite realities where it does. But filling in the gap of knowledge with God is irrational because countless times in our history we have proven supernatural theories incorrect. Just like the Nordic people who believed they invoked Thor's wrath when it thundered, those who believe in Genesis are just as silly imo."

You forgot, Maybe it's Maybelline. All you did was ignore the 1st and 2nd laws again regarding creation and resort to science fiction. It's so you.

More blah-blah as you can't even get around the laws I gave on creation. Can you let me know how many useless replies you'll make before you get serious in showing the universe did come about on its own without breaking the laws I clearly gave? Your trail of maybe's is getting old.

Lol what