RE: Moral justification for the execution of criminals of war?
August 15, 2022 at 8:37 pm
(This post was last modified: August 15, 2022 at 8:40 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(August 15, 2022 at 8:11 pm)bennyboy Wrote:I thinks it's a well demonstrated utilitarian rule for a society made of people. I also think killing is killing..and pain is pain. As I've already said, I have no problem at all acknowledging that there are things I like to do which Aren't Great - Bob. This a direct observation that the set of the good as I see it is not entirely exhausted by nor does it contain every representative of the set of things I like.(August 15, 2022 at 7:25 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I wonder, though....do you think that a society formed around the belief that we shouldn't kill people and animals, a more inclusive taboo, would be more or less conducive to capital punishment than one that did believe in human exceptionalism?
You think that people should never be killed, but that animals may be killed for the fun of it. A killing is a killing, harm is harm, pain is pain. So yes, it's pretty apparent that if even very bad people cannot be killed, there's a blanket over the one species that is based on membership rather than on merit-- clearly, exceptionalism.
Quote:The problem is that "normative beliefs" can include things like "Niggers is savages and ain't Christian, and as their souls (if they even have souls) is anyway condemned by the Lord, the white man may do with them as he wishes." You can have enforced compliance for those beliefs, too, based on the sincere belief of the population that what they WANT is really good, filled in with "rational" arguments once the rule is already agreed upon. Preachers, politicians, children and housewives will parrot each other in an idea so common that it is "known" to be true.Sure, our normative beliefs have been known to contain a number of horrid things, and? Some of them were mistakes explained solely by ourselves as subjects - the way we might feel about x. Others mistakes made because of some assertion that x was good for society. Yet more still mistakes about items of fact. If we're even allowing for such statements to be mistaken....but ofc, if we're not...then what's the problem with those normative statements anyway?
Spackle works wonders.
I think we would both be comfortable allowing for human beings to be able to get things wrong any number of ways. Sure, their feels - but not just their feels. No?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!