RE: Maximizing Moral Virtue
August 19, 2022 at 12:00 pm
(This post was last modified: August 19, 2022 at 12:02 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
-With all of this thread now behind us in reference and for comparison.
One is top down, one is bottom up. One is an appeal to external authority, the other an appeal to internal deliberation. Where the allegedly divine moral agent can only ever have it's sects own members as the practical labor for virtue building, the other conscripts all moral agents anywhere at all times.
In one, the virtue of virtue is a transactional relationship with the moral lawgiver, most often conceptualized as a tangible benefit - something they leave this world with. The golden ticket. However, in don't harm do helpism, this relationship is reversed. To paraphrase the prophet..Randy Travis, it's not what you take when you leave this world behind, it's what you leave behind you when you go.
So, how do we seek to ensure that our children inherit good moral values? Well, one way to do it, is to count on a fairy and it's army of witchdoctors to exert control over the levers of society. The other....providing a good example ourselves. We're the first moral agents our children will ever deal with, and the way we deal with each other leaves a lasting and profound impression which ripples out beyond even our own lives to touch people we never knew and never interacted with in ways we could not have imagined.
Quote:My main question is what should we do to ensure that our children inherit good moral values?Theism seeks to convince, compel, or coerce a moral agent through the fear, majesty, or awe of a singularly authoratative divine entity. Dont harm, do helpism, in contrast, seeks to convince, compel, or coerce a moral agent through repeated first person interactions with other moral agents.
One is top down, one is bottom up. One is an appeal to external authority, the other an appeal to internal deliberation. Where the allegedly divine moral agent can only ever have it's sects own members as the practical labor for virtue building, the other conscripts all moral agents anywhere at all times.
In one, the virtue of virtue is a transactional relationship with the moral lawgiver, most often conceptualized as a tangible benefit - something they leave this world with. The golden ticket. However, in don't harm do helpism, this relationship is reversed. To paraphrase the prophet..Randy Travis, it's not what you take when you leave this world behind, it's what you leave behind you when you go.
So, how do we seek to ensure that our children inherit good moral values? Well, one way to do it, is to count on a fairy and it's army of witchdoctors to exert control over the levers of society. The other....providing a good example ourselves. We're the first moral agents our children will ever deal with, and the way we deal with each other leaves a lasting and profound impression which ripples out beyond even our own lives to touch people we never knew and never interacted with in ways we could not have imagined.
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