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Can multiple people hallucinate the same thing at the same time ?
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RE: Can multiple people hallucinate the same thing at the same time ?
(August 19, 2022 at 2:11 pm)LazaB Wrote: I know about mass hallucinations but that still doesn't explain how can 2-3-4 people see the same thing down to the details in one room , i think that cloud shape and miracle of the sun is easier to explain because not all witnesses saw the same thing , so it's easier to say that they were all wrong , but how the hell can multiple people see the same details on the person who is not even there ?
I am sorry if i am boring you with this but i always tell people how these stories are bullshit so it bothers me that i can't explain this Big Grin

No, you are not boring anyone. I would only advice you not to believe everything people claim even in groups. Most of the world's population believed the earth was flat, and unfortunately there are still idiots today that still do. 

There are swarms of Muslims who do a pilgrimage to either Mecca and walk around a giant box praying to Allah while doing so. Sometimes the crowed gets so frenzied it starts a stampede and people get trampled to death. So what is so awesome in that giant box? Nothing, some idiot eons ago convinced other Muslims that the stone was found by Abraham. But secular historians, while they cant say for sure what kind of stone it is, because of access restrictions, most certainly would say the stone has absolutely no divine power or meaning, but merely something Muslims like believing. It is as stupid a belief as the Shroud Of Turin Christians stupidly think was the burial cloth of the Jesus character. 

Religious relics in antiquity were notoriously and often fraudulent so the seller could either gain followers or con people out of their money or possessions. It is no different a con than when the Catholic Church sold "indulgences", basically a get out of jail forgiveness card if you tithed. 

Real and objective historians and archeologists do not sell the findings as making a god or gods real, and are not apologists. Theologians however, will point to all sorts of monuments, writings, and dug up antiquities as proof their God/god/s deity is real. That is not objective, that is a sales pitch.  

If the claimed observations of the societies of antiquity were always true because we find evidence of those claims, then the Egyptian gods and goddesses are real, the Roman gods/goddess are real.  Queen Maya, the mother of Buddha, who was told by the divine world, she would give birth to a boy who would bring wisdom to the world, that too would also be true. 

But in reality, nobody believes all God/god deity claims are all equally true all at the same time. I've heard more liberal theists pawn it off as "That is just God speaking to humans in different languages." <----- Nonsense. It is human ignorance and the unwillingness to find real answers. It is easier for most humans to buy a simplistic nonsense answer to comfort themselves than to seek real answers.
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RE: Can multiple people hallucinate the same thing at the same time ? - by Brian37 - August 19, 2022 at 4:32 pm

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