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Why do you care?
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RE: Why do you care?
(December 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Egor Wrote: I wonder why atheists are so anti-Christian?

I don't think most atheists are anti-Christian. Most of us in the West have Christian friends and family, whom we love. There is a certain class of Christian, that I think of as 'Christianists', who attempt to gain tacit government endorsement for their religion that irritate me, and trolls are irritating by definition, no matter their religion or lack thereof. Atheist forums get theist (in the West, mostly Christian) trolls, it's the nature of things. So, on discussion boards, there's a tendency to expect trolling from new theist members who haven't shown they come in peace. It's not fair, but it has more to do with the interwebz than with actual differences between atheists and theists.

(December 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Egor Wrote: I mean, really, if you believe God doesn’t exist, then why trouble yourselves with what Christians believe? I notice no one complains about Islam, Hinduism or Buddhism, and no one complains much about cults, just Christianity.

In the West, our lives are not much impacted by Hinduism and Buddhism. Possibly you haven't been around long enough to make a sound judgement about no one complaining about Islam. Perhaps you should check out the subforum on Islam?

(December 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Egor Wrote: I also wonder why there are rules in this forum against saying you are going to hell for your beliefs, and yet it seems you post continually about the injustice of Hell, or the fact that God is responsible for evil. Again, what do you care? If there is no God, why do you get so hot under the collar about it? No pun intended.

Because it is rude on multiple levels. It assumes the speaker is qualified to determine who goes to hell (arrogance/hubris). The speaker necessarily agrees that it is just that the person they're claiming will go to hell will go there (judgemental/nasty). Believe it or not, pretty much all atheists are aware that most Christians think we're going to hell. What purpose does it serve to harp on it? I find it mystifying that so many theists have trouble getting that 'if you don't believe in God you'll go to hell' translates as 'if you don't agree with me you deserve to be burned alive for eternity'. Whether God does or doesn't exist has nothing to do with the offense involved with someone telling you that you're going to hell.

(December 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Egor Wrote: And if, to you, the evil in the world proves there is no God, how do you explain all the good? Thinking

The presence of ANY evil is incompatible with a God who is omnipotent and omnibenevolent. A mix of bad and good is expected from an indifferent universe. It may not be a problem for your particular version of the Christian God, I hear there's a movement to tone down his omnipotence a bit while retaining the omnibenevolence: that's how I would go if it was me, a very powerful but not omnipotent God that's doing the best he can with a whole universe to run.

(December 1, 2011 at 2:22 pm)Egor Wrote: Just some questions; just trying to keep it real.

Word.

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