Do you think that without religion the crusades would have never happened?

[Eilonnwy]

The funny thing is that it was a joke and Eilon took it seriously. Just dangling the line. Didn't need a very big piece of bait though. But in essence what she writes isn't true. It is word play alone.

The simple fact is the idea that "You can't prove a negative" in this case refers to logical philosophy, arguments and truth statements. Not math.

You will find that maths explains much in the universe using mathematical terms. Take physics for example, it isn't only numbers. The equations paint a picture in the mind, explain and duduct fundamental phenemenon. Known and unknow. Mathematics is a language. Your ignorance on this subject is outstanding.

Tell Einstein mathematics isn't philosophy. You have no idea.

Can you actually have a debate with someone without calling them ignorant? I never claim to know everything, but it seems you feel that anyone who doesn't agree with you or questions what you say that they are ignorant. That's not how to win an argument. Joke or not, it was a statement not relevant to the discussion at hand. I never said math was not a philosophy, all I ever said was math and philosophy are not the same thing. Thats. It. If you can't understand the difference from those statements, that's not my problem.

Anyway, this topic has been derailed enough. Please keep on topic.