RE: Maximizing Moral Virtue
September 7, 2022 at 2:26 pm
(This post was last modified: September 7, 2022 at 2:43 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(September 7, 2022 at 2:16 pm)h311inac311 Wrote: It seems to me that both Aegon and Nudger are upset by and large with Theocratic over-reach or the use of an appeal to god as a means of manipulation. If you've ever read any of the prophets I'm sure you would be surprised by how often it is the lone shepherd who is advocating on behalf of a love for his creator.An appeal to a god often does take the form of a manipulative effort - but it doesn't really matter whether it does or not with respect to maximizing moral virtue. Gods are completely useless to morality. As a scam, or well intentioned. Even that very sentence is explicitly ammoral. Do x y or z...not for any moral reason - but for love of a creator. Securing someone's love - god or human, may not factor into making a moral decision - and as it just so happens it's very often the case that securing the love of a god (as told) or a human (in mere reality) is both immoral and estranges you from the love of other humans.
That it minimizes moral virtue (and in some cases completely moots morality as a factor).... for transactional gain. Tell me, does being a good person get you a golden ticket, or does that require something else?
I've read The Prophets - I don't think that you'd appreciate my understanding of it..mostly since you think they were prophets. I can see the evil in what they cherished and I can see the danger in chasing the things they loved. I can see the goodness of their expectations as they perceived them and the genuine yearning for some other state of affairs. I see the effects of a very real and very tragic loss. In short...I see actual human beings with complicated motives in compromising situations. You see wizards staring into a crystal ball. IDK how that's going to help maximize moral virtue as a belief..either. The Prophets, out of love for their creator, advocated that their daughters should immediately cease race mixing, for example. They stumped for civil war over theological disputes. They scapegoated their various sub-sects for the political and military misfortunes which had befallen them. The most important bit of Prophecy in the western world concerns how some batshit davidic warlord will come to earth and roll human civilization back to the iron age.
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