(December 3, 2011 at 7:14 pm)Ace Otana Wrote:(December 3, 2011 at 6:54 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: So basically, Lucid, you are arguing that since arguments fall short for proving or disproving a god, you say that it is fine to be a theist in this situation, but atheists have to go even further to argue their postion.
That atheism is not a simple disbelief, but an active belief that a god doesnt exist.
So, in a sense, you are arguing that belief in a god is the default position? And those who disagree have to prove beyond a doubt that a god does not exist.
..and since it is impossible to confirm with 100% accuracy that a god exists or not, the atheist is doomed to fail because he cannot support his belief that a god doesnt exist.
It almost seems like it's all been set up.
How can one disprove the non-existent after all?
Yet, at the same time, the mention of Asatru and Thor immediately invoked a mention of "Flying spaghetti monster" from Lucid.
Apparently, according to Lucid, only HIS god is the default god, and other gods are obviously not real. Or since they are no longer popular gods (with the mention of Thor), then they are not even to be considered.
Therefore, the only God that matters is the one Lucid believes in. If, say, someone steps up and starts arguing the existence of Diana, then Lucid is well in his rights to brush that deity off as obviously not important, as Diana is not winning the popularity contest with modern earth.
..but, at the same time, if Lucids arguments for his deity fall short, and in fact that ALL posible arguments for his god falls short, that in no way merits that his god may not exist, since it is impossible to prove or disprove that Lucids god exists or not.
So, arguments for Thor is not necessary and should pretty much be ignored. If they are wrong then Thor doesnt exist. If they are correct, then...possibly Satan is involved. You obviously can prove that Thor doesnt exist by saying that he is Satan, or that Thor believers are stealing arguments for Lucid's god.
Arguments from atheists can not win, because you cannot prove that Lucids god does not exist. Athiets arguments are doomed to fail.
Lucids god is the default position (out of the thousands of sects in Christianity). If his arguments fail, that does not mean that his god does not exist. Lucid's god is mysterious, and is therefore difficult to prove or disprove. Lucid's god has a punishment set up for non-believers, so it is your best bet to believe and be wrong, as opposed to disbelieve and his god punish you if he does exist.
In other words "HELL" is the biggest factor that Lucid's god is the default, as atheists take a very noticable risk of burning in Hell if they are wrong.
Am I correct Lucid?
