Why atheism is a belief.

[JoopWoop]

Oh dear, here we go again with the "if the evidence is unobtainable..." line. These xtians think think they are so smart with that one. I couldn't find a big enough facepalm on the entire internet to do it justice.

How would one KNOW evidence of god is "unobtainable" or as Frodo likes to say "unobservable"? We know evidence for god is "unobtained" and "unobserved" but that is not the same thing! And the reasonable conclusion to arrive at from a lack of observed or obtained evidence is...non belief in it's existence.

Geez you completely miss the point with that one. The point is you won't KNOW which is why you need some viable alternative to be presented.

Simply throwing your hands in the air and assuming nothing is the cause of everything (due to quantum foam measurements) is very weak and will only convince the converted.

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Yes but that's an extreme position and one which won't convince many. Conversely to claim your position is objective and logical you would need some viable alternative to some first cause, creator etc to effectively discount it. Otherwise it will always hang around.

I don't recall Minimalist making any claims to be logical OR objective. He simply stated that your beliefs aren't worth the paper it's printed on.

The fact that you are delusional CAN be proven objectively and logically.

Your post may as well read:
"No we're not objective and logical, only anything we say and believe is."
Are you really that far gone that you fail to see the hypocrisy in that?

The sad thing some atheists seem to think they have a higher level of intelligence when they fail to see their own flaws.

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You have assumed that evidence is available and observable; as if it is neither available nor observable you have assumed your conclusion by asking for evidence of something unobtainable.

That is the definition of evidence! If it is not available or observable, then it is not evidence! If it is unobtainable, then that is your problem. Atheism is not a belief in the same sense that -1 is not a whole number. You can argue all you want that it is, but by the very definition of it, it is not.

tahh daahh. I think you might have got it.

You're asking for unobtainable evidence.

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Okay, for evidence let's take prayer. It's stated quite clearly over and over again in your holy book that anything - emphasis on the anything - that is asked in prayer will be granted. Pray for some unambiguous event to happen; for the sake of experiment, let's ask for every single case of cancer to be eradicated overnight. That ought to be a trivial thing for a god, no? Just think how many converts it could win over in the blink of its metaphorical eye. Are you willing to perform the experiment?

Why would I pray? You seem highly restrictive in what your atheism is against.