RE: Why atheism is a belief.
December 7, 2011 at 9:53 pm
(This post was last modified: December 7, 2011 at 10:00 pm by JoopWoop.)
(December 7, 2011 at 9:32 pm)TheDarkestOfAngels Wrote:(December 7, 2011 at 9:13 pm)JoopWoop Wrote: Prove me wrong sweetheart.
The rest of your post was babbling drivel so I just deleted it.
Ahh, if only someone could remove you from the planet, all of life would be the sweeter. It's okay, darling, you don't have to talk about the grown up things.
Try not to be so dramatic, I’m fully aware that twats like you exist and will always do so. Keep holding a vigil for that sweeter life though.
Quote:Your erroneous presumption is that we dismiss the possibilities of theism because, and I'll quote you for this,
Someone Operating With One Can Short of a Six Pack Wrote:Therefore you dismiss something with no idea of what you’re dismissing or what you’re even looking for.
Quote:Theistic claims are claims with no evidence. There is no evidence on Earth supporting the claims made by the major religions of christianity, islam, judaism, or most other religions. We dismiss those claims based on that reason, therefore, we have an idea of what we're dismissing.
Your claim that we don't know what we're looking for is simply wrong. We're looking for what most people look for: the truth - whatever that is.
We simply dismiss the stupid delusions that theists claim.
Once again, what evidence are you looking for? A signed affidavit by Jesus, a quick visit by Allah or Yahweh?
Given the variation of belief amongst each and within each religion, what theists claims are you dismissing? All of them? How do you reconcile those who do not believe in a literal translation of the bible and that their theism is based on one of the following (theological, ethical, spiritual, liturgical, or other theme).
Your perceptive is limited to denying those who are literalists and fundamentalists.
Quote:If I'm not mistaken, this has been repeated to you ad nausium but you continue to set up your pathetic strawman arguement against us and insult us for not falling for it. We dont' appreciate being told what we believe considering that your conlusion, hypothosis, and everything in between is flawed for this reason.
Therefore, that is a mighty big presumption, on your part.
Repetition does not make it correct, unless you’re using your atheism as an affirmation? Most of your statements consist of saying “I’m right as I’ve repeated it numerous times”. Also I’m telling you that you believe, not what you believe. Or is this a veiled acceptance on your part?
(December 7, 2011 at 7:12 pm)5thHorseman Wrote: where is the requirement for god, or are you just arguing from ignorance that 'god' is needed?
There's a requirement for an cause and god is a possibility.
(December 7, 2011 at 9:49 pm)Napoleon Wrote:(December 7, 2011 at 8:22 pm)JoopWoop Wrote: So you have no idea of any possible causes for existence, but for some reason, you’re perfectly justified in dismissing the possibility of a god. Tell me there’s more to your position that this?
The more I look into it, the more retarded and fundamental the atheist position is. When you grow or wise up, you may see why.
Imagination doesn't have any bearing on evidence. There is no evidence for god. Ergo, I do not believe in god. I do not rule out the 'possibility' of SOME FORM of god, but seen as there is no evidence, I see no point in wasting my time mindlessly hoping and believing there is one.
Here's a cause of existence for you. An eternal giant tortoise who knows all, sees all and IS all, shits us out of it's arse. Thus the universe was born. Tell me, would you take my theory seriously? If so why not?
I make a bet that the reasons you come up with are the same as why I don't take religion or god seriously.
Oh, and do feel free enlightened one, to tell us all of your secrets, because I am yet to hear your reasoning as to why you think there should be a god? Other than ofcourse the constant repetition of "you guyz are stupidz cuz you don't have any better ideaz".
NEWSFLASH: We don't need any.
I know you don't need any, that's irrelevant what you think you need.
You define something ridiculous and then discount it, this seems to be the bastion for all atheists.
It seems atheists lack the ability to think beyond what they deem to be evidence and can only offer FSM as a nail in the coffin of a god. It must be horrible to be that limited.