First things first ................... HA HA HA HA!!! HA HA HA HA!!! OHHHH .... thats funny ....... seriously .... do you people meet somewhere on the web and chat about showing up here, lying about who you are and then hitting us with the EXACT SAME SHIT we see every other day.
But now moving on ...
I've never heard an atheist state that before. One, it's a double negative and two, every atheist I've ever met simply says, I don't believe in any gods. That's it... no more.
Completely superfluous statement.
Well, since YOU say so, and YOU'RE an authority on everything existential, let us all praise YOU now for your glorious insight that still not surprisingly changes absolutely nothing.
LOL .. "sufficient cause for citing a lack of evidence" REALLY? Pay attention now ... there is no evidence ... therefore that gives atheists sufficient cause for citing lack of evidence.
Seriously? Is this goombah for real?
Worst Analogy Ever Award. Yeah man, it's REALLY hard to get evidence of where a coin on the street came from. christ ... this dude's an idiot.
You're the only one arguing that point. The rest of us already know it's not a belief and never bring it up. Hell, even most of the christians concede that. For that matter, what do YOU care if they call it a belief or not?
So what are you? An atheist prophet here to set us all straight???
An agnostic? A Buddhist? A Liar?
...anyway, you don't have to answer man .... honestly, no one here gives a shit what you have to say or what tired "new" theory you think you're bringing to the table.
But now moving on ...
(December 6, 2011 at 5:23 pm)JoopWoop Wrote: Atheists state they do not know there is no god.
I've never heard an atheist state that before. One, it's a double negative and two, every atheist I've ever met simply says, I don't believe in any gods. That's it... no more.
Quote:Atheists state there is a lack of evidence for a god, therefore there is no belief required.
Completely superfluous statement.
Quote:The flaw in this position is what you have assumed about evidence. You have assumed that evidence is available and observable; as if it is neither available nor observable you have assumed your conclusion by asking for evidence of something unobtainable.
To state Atheism is not a belief is nonsense as you have made assumptions to reach your apparent state of disbelief. That you disbelieve in a god is equivalent to a theist who believes, as neither of you have a valid reason for believing/disbelieving.
Well, since YOU say so, and YOU'RE an authority on everything existential, let us all praise YOU now for your glorious insight that still not surprisingly changes absolutely nothing.
Quote:If you claim to have sufficient cause for citing a lack of evidence, what evidence do you have to disregard a god? And if you claim the burden of proof is elsewhere, what form evidence do you require?
LOL .. "sufficient cause for citing a lack of evidence" REALLY? Pay attention now ... there is no evidence ... therefore that gives atheists sufficient cause for citing lack of evidence.
Seriously? Is this goombah for real?
Quote:If you state you cannot account for existence, but disbelieve in the interim this makes no sense. If you find a coin on the street do you assume that it simply is without cause until you have proof of otherwise? I’m not using Paley’s argument to prove a god exists - assuming that nothing caused existence without the evidence of this apparent ‘nothing’ as a possible explanation is just illogical.
Worst Analogy Ever Award. Yeah man, it's REALLY hard to get evidence of where a coin on the street came from. christ ... this dude's an idiot.
Quote:If you have a personal preference for no god, fine, just don’t try and argue that atheism is not a belief.
You're the only one arguing that point. The rest of us already know it's not a belief and never bring it up. Hell, even most of the christians concede that. For that matter, what do YOU care if they call it a belief or not?
Quote:Once again, I’m not a theist. Never have been. You may think this accusation gives your position some credence, but it just highlights the weakness of your perspective if this is all you have as a response.
So what are you? An atheist prophet here to set us all straight???
An agnostic? A Buddhist? A Liar?
...anyway, you don't have to answer man .... honestly, no one here gives a shit what you have to say or what tired "new" theory you think you're bringing to the table.