RE: Why atheism is a belief.
December 8, 2011 at 11:32 pm
(This post was last modified: December 8, 2011 at 11:35 pm by TheDarkestOfAngels.)
(December 8, 2011 at 11:22 pm)JoopWoop Wrote: Is "I believe it to not be true" a belief?No.
The fact hat you put "I believe X" in there doesn't make the conclusion a belief regardless of what X is. For example, I believe in germ theory, but that is not a 'belief.'
(December 8, 2011 at 11:22 pm)JoopWoop Wrote: If you know it's not true, then it's not true until then you have no foundation of stating you lack belief, you simply lack belief in a god. Your position is as solid as anyone else's.That's not really how "belief" works. You should have looked at the definitoins for the terms I provided you.
I've stated my foundation for rejecting religion and that does itself not constitute a belief. Given that the theistic claims of god and their religion have NO foundation, reason, or evidence whatosever, I'd say that I'm on better foundation for rejecting those conclusions than they are of accepting them. As such, no, we're not on the same level at all.
(December 8, 2011 at 11:30 pm)Shell B Wrote: Oh, that makes it easy, then.
Doop doop doop. Another one bites the dust. Doop doop doop. Another one gone another one gone another one bites the dust.
That's two idiots in one day. I came back from not being on the forums for a long time at a great time. That was entertaining while it lasted, at least until one of them returns with a new guise and attempts the same retarded thing.
If today you can take a thing like evolution and make it a crime to teach in the public schools, tomorrow you can make it a crime to teach it in the private schools and next year you can make it a crime to teach it to the hustings or in the church. At the next session you may ban books and the newspapers...
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
Ignorance and fanaticism are ever busy and need feeding. Always feeding and gloating for more. Today it is the public school teachers; tomorrow the private. The next day the preachers and the lecturers, the magazines, the books, the newspapers. After a while, Your Honor, it is the setting of man against man and creed against creed until with flying banners and beating drums we are marching backward to the glorious ages of the sixteenth centry when bigots lighted fagots to burn the men who dared to bring any intelligence and enlightenment and culture to the human mind. ~Clarence Darrow, at the Scopes Monkey Trial, 1925
Politics is supposed to be the second-oldest profession. I have come to realize that it bears a very close resemblance to the first. ~Ronald Reagan
