(April 1, 2023 at 8:42 am)Goosebump Wrote:(April 1, 2023 at 8:22 am)Leonardo17 Wrote: “We may therefore conclude that there is neither jihad nor martyrdom outside the realm of truth, that martyrdom applies only when it is preceded by jihad, that jihad is an inclusive struggle for the cause of the truth, that a mujahid dies the death of a martyr even though he does not fall on the battlefield. He dies as a martyr even though he is not killed, on the condition that he stays loyal to the divine truth and stands ready to fight for the truth and to defend it at all costs, even at the cost of his own life. He is a mujahid while he lives, and a martyr if he dies or is killed for it.”
You can read that and see virtue. But try and read it as a infidel. IT implies that anyone claiming Jihad is claiming truth. It's right there in the first sentence. So anything after, death from martyrdom is in service to truth/jihad. It's not that slippery a slope to suicide bombers. AkA: A death Cult. "He dies a martyr even though he is not killed" implying some Devine armor that is nonsense. And if he dies? Well he didn't believe enough in the truth. The Armor didn't work for him. "He is mujahid while he lives, and a martyr if he dies or is killed for it." So he's a struggler and striver while he lives (that's what Mujahid means) and he's elevated to a saint hood (that's what martyr means) if he dies.
Yah no emphasis on death in this cult at all. Pfft.
- Absolutely. This is why I believe that we should read these texts as adults, without any indoctrination at a very young age. We’ve had this debate with Grand Nudger. An easy way to avoid this type of mistake is to approach these texts with the intention of uncovering their spiritual value only. If you seek worldliness in them you’ll end up doing all sorts of nonsense and you will end up harming yourself and others. And this is a problem in all major religions. And this is why everybody hates religion. But I am telling you that this is really not what these texts are saying. I am currently reading (listening to) “The Living Wisdom of the Tao” by Mr. Wayne Dyer. You should check it out sometime. And if you want to learn anything from other scriptures as well, this will give you an idea on “how” to read these scriptures.
If you want to see some “Mujahiddin” (according to my understanding) Here are some of them:
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