A bit late to the party, but oh well...
The closest that came to a "compeling" argument, for me, was the metaphysical one... where god is the entirety of the metaphysical realm. That way, this entity can be said to underlie all of physics and, thus, all of reality. That could be a creator god, but it would be one that somehow got created along with its creation.
I've read that this is phylosophical underpinning of the Christian god, with the necessary leap of faith where the "metaphysics entity" is then able to somehow embody into its own human-like son in a particular location of this huge planet, preach around for a couple of years a message that was already floating in the area for decades or centuries, and then rely on a few of his followers to write it down decades later.
Of course, it's an argument that can be dismissed by assuming that metaphysics is actually created by human brains finding patterns, as they evolved to do.
But... we cannot know for sure. That's why it's the best argument for me.
(May 12, 2023 at 1:56 pm)Kingpin Wrote: OK, reaching out to my agnostic/atheist friends. I'm very curious, genuinely interested, are there are "arguments" that theists have provided for proof of a God's existence (not even the Christian God), that you found compelling? Or caused you to pause and perhaps say, there might be A God out there?
I found that when it's all broken down in most debates, an agnostic/atheist boils down to moral arguments/judgments against God, which in and of themselves does not disprove there being a God per se. Just that they refuse to accept a God they find reprehensible.
The closest that came to a "compeling" argument, for me, was the metaphysical one... where god is the entirety of the metaphysical realm. That way, this entity can be said to underlie all of physics and, thus, all of reality. That could be a creator god, but it would be one that somehow got created along with its creation.
I've read that this is phylosophical underpinning of the Christian god, with the necessary leap of faith where the "metaphysics entity" is then able to somehow embody into its own human-like son in a particular location of this huge planet, preach around for a couple of years a message that was already floating in the area for decades or centuries, and then rely on a few of his followers to write it down decades later.
Of course, it's an argument that can be dismissed by assuming that metaphysics is actually created by human brains finding patterns, as they evolved to do.
But... we cannot know for sure. That's why it's the best argument for me.
