(May 15, 2023 at 1:49 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: @Kingpin, IMHO every demonstration for the existence of God presupposes a philosophical framework. For example the logic of the 5 Ways are impeccable and the premises sound but it only works if you accept the assumptions of classical philosophy regarding infinite regress and honor basic distinctions between potentiality/actuality, etc. What tends to happen is the apologist defends the argument while to atheist goes meta to sidestep the argument, either to nihilism or their substitute god of the multiverse.
In your opinion, is it '[going] meta' to point out that it doesn't answer the fundamental question it purports to answer, not to me anyway, ie why something not nothing? ...because it itself is something not nothing? From my POV then, all it does is offer an unfalsifiable leap of faith, that may provide a sense of meaning if that's what you're after, but given my view also that I've seen nothing to suggest God's intervention in the world we see, and indeed you seem to allude to similar views yourself with what you've often said about 'divine hiddenness', then the most I could take from that is deism. It's possible, that's all I can give it, but the most it could ever mean to me was deism.


