RE: Morality
May 18, 2023 at 10:00 am
(This post was last modified: May 18, 2023 at 10:09 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 18, 2023 at 9:45 am)Kingpin Wrote: Thanks for all the responses folks. The point I was trying to make is I see a LOT of atheists making moral judgments against theistic Gods and some go as far as saying that is WHY there cannot be a God. But how can one justify that judgment as matter of fact if morality as a whole is subjective to self and society? It cannot be fact if it's relative and subjective. So making moral judgment about God as factual wrong is to borrow from theistic morality to deny theism. Seems odd.Neither subjective nor objective moral appraisals need to borrow anything from theistic morality. If a subjectivist makes a moral judgement as though it were a fact, then they are borrowing from objectivist morality. If a subjectivist makes a moral appraisal as a subjectivist, then they are not borrowing from anyone or anything at all. They are referring to what they would and would not accept. Would and would not worship.
Quote:As for my morality subjective to God, what's the problem? So what if it is? He is the creator of all things, I'm perfectly fine being subjective to Him. All this tells me is that you want to be your own God. I believe morality is rooted in God's nature and we are made in the image of God, thus morality is engrained in our being, knowing right from wrong.You may be a happy slave, but this says nothing about the nature of morality? Whether or not morality is subjective, objective, or other-than is not a question of how content you are with whatever position in life you believe you have with the ghost king. Simply put, that is not, at all.....what that word means.
Being a moral objectivist, believing that there really are facts of right and wrong, doesn't make me a god or suggest that I would want to be one. I wouldn't..in fact, if little things like facts matter to you.
I have a simple moral question, perhaps you'd be so kind as to answer it? When you decide whether or not something is right or wrong, is there a little checkbox in your appraisal for "does one or more gods exist?"..? Is there any moral thing in all of existence that you can think of, that would not be good or bad, based on whether it checked off that particular box?
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