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If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist
(June 12, 2023 at 11:17 am)R-Farmer Wrote:
(June 12, 2023 at 10:46 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: It's the bargain basement pitch.  "Fuck morality, fuck ability, you're going to die."

Morality is objective. What is moral in this country is not moral in others, here and now in the world today. So why assume your western values have any more mojo on the status of right and wrong than This country's ability to Force others to abide by this faux standard?

Then why would God then be obliged to follow this same set of standards the west can't even enforce on the rest of the world?
What you appear to mean up there, is that morality is relative.  The description you give is not the description of objective morality.  I don't personally agree with metaethical relativism. 

Ultimately, though, I really can't argue with you here.  If you believe that this morality stuff is all bunk, and that things like "no ethnic cleansing" and "no cross border child sex slave raids" are not objective standards, or worthy standards, or are standards that a god could not or would not meet or be obliged by - that's just you telling me what kind of god you believe in, and what you're willing to do to avoid death. 

If all of this stuff is true, this probably explains why I couldn't be a christian even if I wanted to.

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Quote:There's an interesting bit of narrative discontinuity/ambiguity there between old and new magic books.
which again can be accounted for by the need to protect Israel and the covenant God made with them and their Holy Land. Which again came to an end at the point of crucifixion. 
What accounting do you think is required?  It's just a narrative discontinuity - not a challenge.  Presumably, god had a change of heart between old and new magic books.  One of many, really.  

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Quote:  The reward for fealty (and apparently nothing else) in new magic book...is exactly the thing that heavenly guards were stationed at to prevent man from accessing in old magic book.  

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Then what was the whole point of the sacrifice made on the cross?

What I gather from you is that it was to help guys like you cheat death?  For me...no point at all - and that's kind of the point from the outside looking in, eh? What was the point of the sacrifice on the cross, if man must not become immortal?
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RE: If everything has a purpose then evil doesn't exist - by The Grand Nudger - June 12, 2023 at 11:29 am

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