RE: Conscience and the Moral Argument as Evidence for the Goodness of God.
June 15, 2023 at 12:28 am
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2023 at 12:29 am by Astreja.)
(June 14, 2023 at 1:04 am)Astreja Wrote: Morality is a value judgement and is automatically subjective (or, in the case of a community, intersubjective).
(June 14, 2023 at 3:25 am)Belacqua Wrote: Do you have an argument by which you demonstrate the above? I'd be interested to hear it. Or is it just something that seems self-evident to you?
See my response to the OP in post #34 [link]. IMO morality varies too much from culture to culture to be based on an objective standard, although it evolves towards something that looks objective.
(June 14, 2023 at 1:04 am)Astreja Wrote: As for the god of the Bible, if it actually did exist and had deliberately created a place for sentient beings to be tormented for eternity, that one action would make it a being of infinite evil. No amount of good intentions or "holiness" can wave that away.
(June 14, 2023 at 3:25 am)Belacqua Wrote: If someone were to claim that if the God of the Bible isn't real then morality must just be subjective, that would be a false dichotomy. There are systems of virtue ethics and moral realism which argue for objective morality without any reference to a God.
My comment about hell wasn't intended to be an extension of the subjective vs. objective morality question. It's a critique of OP's assertion that his god (presumably the god of the Bible) is an "Essentially Good Being."