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Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions..
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions..
(December 12, 2011 at 5:37 pm)LastPoet Wrote: What is a god anyway? Can anyone provide a strict definition of the thing?
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A few decades ago for quite a lot of people God was the old man in the picture below.

[Image: deus.jpg]

Today, for the theologians the god is a nebulous thing just outside of the universe.
Therefore, you have to state the epoch for which you want to have the strict definition.

God changes with time. The only aspect all forms of god have in common is anthropogenesis. No god is god if he is unable to produce humans!!
(December 13, 2011 at 2:03 am)whateverist Wrote: For me the decision about god goes in the same non-urgent basket as the questions regarding unicorns and gnomes.
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That is not fair!
People all over the earth are not worshiping, for thousands of years now, unicorns and gnomes.

(December 13, 2011 at 2:03 am)whateverist Wrote: My agnosticism doesn't inform my epistemic position toward the god question. I've dismissed that question. My agnosticism informs my moral stance towards others. I recognize that my personal subjective perspective is no more objectively valid than that of anyone else. Atheism gives an accounting of the objective world that is more satisfactory and causes me no subjective dissatisfaction.
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Ι envy the way you handle the language. I am self taught in English but I will try to do my best!
Well, what do I do is to attack the atheists’ and agnostics’ personal subjective by showing that it is as false as theists is.
Theists believe that god produced people and atheists that people produced gods. None, however, arrived at the corresponding conclusion by himself. They are repeating what they were told. That is why your agnosticism cannot inform your epistemic position on the subject.

How can you build a personal subjective perspective on the god issue when you have no information at all as to how the idea of the god was produced. If it was a renowned philosopher, a wise man, who informed humanity of the existence of God he would have explained how it happened and he detected the existence of God. But it was no philosopher, it was oral tradition, popular tradition, it was the layman, the common people who informed humanity about the existence of gods.

Millions of people all over the world cannot be wrong. Don’t you think? They knew without doubt, but you do not know! Atheists also don’t!

There is something wrong with atheism and agnosticism. What is it?
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Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Skeptical_Nurse - November 21, 2011 at 6:24 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Ace Otana - November 21, 2011 at 6:47 am
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