(June 17, 2023 at 9:27 pm)Anomalocaris Wrote:(June 17, 2023 at 7:38 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: I don't believe in gods. I believe in all sorts of other things, including absolutes. That a moral standard is a standard by which all moral agents can be judged - for one.
I think that is a slippery redefinition of “absolutes”. Absolutes ought not to merely be a commitment to asserting something to be true under any circumstances. Absolutes ought to be demonstrably true under any circumstances.
Moral absolutes are some of the oldest absolutes known to man. I bet I believe a bunch of untrue things too. Obviously, the fact that I don't believe in gods doesn't stop me from believing in absolutes or in untrue things. There's a pattern here, I think.
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