RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 10, 2023 at 4:05 pm
(This post was last modified: July 10, 2023 at 4:40 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(July 10, 2023 at 2:28 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Do you think flooding me with multiple websites filled with walls of text is an appropriate response? Um.. Think again. I can similarly answer you by posting literally hundreds of websites and books about the historiography of Islam, which say the exact opposite of Spencer's crap. And then I can claim the upper hand and blame you for not reading the hundreds of links I posted, that's not a recommended tactic if you're willing to have a genuine conversation here.
Please use your head a bit and tell us why your major (only?) source of knowledge about Islam is a far right extremist. And remember, you're not spitting any timeless wisdom here, negationist claims such as Muhammad never existed were suggested many times in the past, but were largely ignored by mainstream scholarly research on Early Islam, and not without reason: Muhammad is one of the most documented figures in history, or perhaps THE most documented.
LOL Prove it. Making unsupported assertions proves nothing. You have nothing. I did not flood yoou with anything. I gave you a page of references. You on the other have have given us NOTHING in terms of support.
Quote:I already clarified this: Spencer dismisses all mainstream Islamic history, like Ibn ishaq's biography of Muhammad and such. He considers it 100% fabrication. This is flatly wrong because Muslims authenticated their history and isolated the fabricated bits.
Another unsupported claim. I have no reason to accept one word you say. Your CLAIMS are not clarifications. You have to provide EXAMPLES and proof of them. Not just claims and assertions.
Maybe you could ask for help in learning how to debate.
Quote:benevolent god implies an afterlife exists, that's 100% true. So proving that a benevolent god exists does prove that an aferlife is real. but this is another topic
Nope. Unless you prove the god exists, it implies nothing. You are such a BAD debater.
I could care less what you think a benevolent god implies. You have to PROVE there is one first. You haven't even tried.
You are certainly quite the pathetic amateur here. Obviously you never debated anyone before. Are you like 13 ?
You keep proving here you are TOTALLY unable to deal with any of the historical issues.
Saying others already did, is nothing but lame bullshit.
You actually know NOTHING about the historical issues.
You are dismissed.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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