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Islam owns atheism with a single verse
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 14, 2023 at 6:16 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:
(July 14, 2023 at 5:35 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: LOL, 
It does, you are just too dense to get why. 
Theism is incoherent because it's god had qualities which are definable, 
BEFORE the Creator creates anything. 

It's not clear that there is a before here. Maybe God was always creating things for eternity. 

(July 14, 2023 at 5:35 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: You god is "good", before a creator creates or defines goodness. 
Your eternal god found it's eternal qualities BEFORE anything is created. 
The question remains. Where did the Reality your god found itself in, come from ?

Since reality includes God in this hypothetical, reality is also eternal, and so didn't come from anything because it always there. Reality never came into existence.

See, your question wasn't that hard after all, nor does it prove that theism is incoherent.

(July 14, 2023 at 5:35 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: a god can't be the creator of the Reality itself exists in.

Yes, and that's not a problem. Because then God creating reality would be logically impossible, since reality includes God Himself. (God creating Himself is obviously a logical impossibility)

And Got not being able to do something logically impossible isn't a problem.

There you go, the entirety of your argument against theism just fell apart and vanished.  Dead Horse

"Was always" is a temporal concept. Fail. 

Quote:Since reality includes God in this hypothetical, reality is also eternal, and so didn't come from anything because it always there. Reality never came into existence

That exactly the same problem. Thanks for making my point for me. 

Quote:Yes, and that's not a problem. Because then God creating reality would be logically impossible, since reality includes God Himself. (God creating Himself is obviously a logical impossibility)

You just contradicted yourself. 
If god didn't create Reality, then where did it come from ?and your god is no god if it didn't create Reality, and is First Cause of nothing. 

Unfortunately your delusion is not satisfied, and you have answered NOTHING. 
Maybe you'll do better next time.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell  Popcorn

Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist 
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 5:44 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 9:04 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 12:07 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 8, 2023 at 5:59 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Silver - July 10, 2023 at 7:30 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 8, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 4:13 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 6:09 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 6:55 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 12:14 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 12:18 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 10, 2023 at 5:29 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 10, 2023 at 7:45 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 10, 2023 at 8:30 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Silver - July 10, 2023 at 7:49 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 15, 2023 at 11:49 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 15, 2023 at 11:33 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Bucky Ball - July 14, 2023 at 6:42 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 15, 2023 at 10:59 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 14, 2023 at 7:24 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 14, 2023 at 11:29 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 15, 2023 at 7:59 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 15, 2023 at 8:02 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 15, 2023 at 8:09 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 15, 2023 at 8:26 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 15, 2023 at 9:07 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 16, 2023 at 9:12 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 15, 2023 at 9:11 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 15, 2023 at 11:05 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Angrboda - July 15, 2023 at 11:44 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Angrboda - July 15, 2023 at 11:17 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 15, 2023 at 8:30 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 15, 2023 at 12:00 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Angrboda - July 15, 2023 at 12:55 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 16, 2023 at 1:38 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 22, 2023 at 2:16 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 17, 2023 at 12:31 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 21, 2023 at 4:54 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 4:16 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 3:17 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 22, 2023 at 4:01 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 8:00 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 9:38 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 24, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - August 3, 2023 at 7:59 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - August 3, 2023 at 5:56 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Silver - August 3, 2023 at 9:31 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - August 4, 2023 at 12:23 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Gwaithmir - August 5, 2023 at 7:52 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - August 5, 2023 at 8:54 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 1:12 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 1:22 pm

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