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Islam owns atheism with a single verse
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
(July 15, 2023 at 11:08 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: God as traditionally defined ™ is a necessary being, a being that cannot fail to exist.  

God as traditionally defined may or may not be a necessary being. The concepts of necessity and contingency are completely absent in all the major scriptures of the world religions. For all we know, the account of God in Islam may actually be that of a maximally great being, but not a necessary one, just enough power and "greatness" to make creating the world possible.

And it's worth noting that the only theistic arguments where necessity matters are ontological arguments, which are of dubious validity.

(July 15, 2023 at 11:04 am)Anomalocaris Wrote: So it seems scope of conceivability is inversely proportional to the scope of knowledgeability, no?

I don't think it's bad or subpar if we try to conceive of things that aren't real. We have a vivid imagination, well, let's use it.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 5:44 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 9:04 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 12:07 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 8, 2023 at 5:59 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Silver - July 10, 2023 at 7:30 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 8, 2023 at 9:43 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 4:13 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 6:09 am
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 9, 2023 at 12:18 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 9, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 10, 2023 at 5:29 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 10, 2023 at 7:45 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 10, 2023 at 8:30 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Silver - July 10, 2023 at 7:49 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 15, 2023 at 11:49 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - July 15, 2023 at 11:33 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 15, 2023 at 10:59 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 14, 2023 at 7:24 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 14, 2023 at 11:29 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 15, 2023 at 7:59 am
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 15, 2023 at 8:26 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 15, 2023 at 9:07 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 16, 2023 at 9:12 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 15, 2023 at 9:11 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 15, 2023 at 11:05 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Loaded dice - July 15, 2023 at 11:26 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Angrboda - July 15, 2023 at 11:44 am
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 15, 2023 at 8:30 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Nay_Sayer - July 15, 2023 at 12:00 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Angrboda - July 15, 2023 at 12:55 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 16, 2023 at 1:38 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 22, 2023 at 2:16 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by brewer - July 17, 2023 at 12:31 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 21, 2023 at 4:54 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 4:16 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 3:17 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - July 22, 2023 at 4:01 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 8:00 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 23, 2023 at 9:38 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - July 24, 2023 at 3:42 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - August 3, 2023 at 7:59 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by h4ym4n - August 3, 2023 at 5:56 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Silver - August 3, 2023 at 9:31 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Astreja - August 4, 2023 at 12:23 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by Gwaithmir - August 5, 2023 at 7:52 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by no one - August 5, 2023 at 8:54 am
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 1:12 pm
RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse - by LinuxGal - August 6, 2023 at 1:22 pm

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