RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 11:59 am
(This post was last modified: July 15, 2023 at 12:00 pm by Loaded dice.)
(July 15, 2023 at 11:49 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: An all powerful all knowing deity that is not necessary, that is not the god of the philosophers...anyway - avicennas god included. You already shut the door on that.
Now I didn't say that God as traditionally conceived isn't necessary, It's just that necessity doesn't follow from scripture.
Believing that there is a creator of all things doesn't entail that the creator couldn't have not existed.. the ontological arguments that attempt to prove necessity look like a trick or a word game, they can't provide a reliable account of God.
(July 15, 2023 at 11:49 am)Astreja Wrote: their god would force me to "enjoy" paradise
Um.. and what's the problem with that, exactly ? If your other-worldly self is made in such a way that it enjoys heaven, what else is needed ? would you rather prefer being bored or annoyed of heaven for eternity ?