RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions..
December 15, 2011 at 10:13 am
(This post was last modified: December 15, 2011 at 10:16 am by Whateverist.)
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This of course begs the question "and how do you know that you have studied the question more than I have?" [Let me guess, because you have reached a greater degree of certainty?] I think I will remain agnostic concerning which of us has studied the subject more. Frankly I hope it is you because I'm no longer much interested in any of it, and if I had it to over again would have put the same interest into other subjects.
Oh to have been there and seen so much. Exactly how long have you lived? Or do you only speculate? Now you have me curious though. Do tell, how did the idea of the existence of a god come to be? [Personally I agree with Campbell that there is something in the human psyche that gives rise to the idea or makes it appealing once the idea is out there.]
From this I take it you think it is all a bunch of shit? You have certainly identified an odd passage concerned with the after life, a subject that has always seemed absurd to me as well.
Okay I do recognize appeals to authority as a form of argument, albeit a very weak form.
I am genuinely curious now. I confess I have turned over more than a few rocks looking for secret meanings, but there are many more I haven't touched.
(December 15, 2011 at 2:59 am)dtango Wrote:(December 15, 2011 at 12:01 am)whateverist Wrote: You know that God is a joke. You know that god does not exist. Like the Theists you claim to know much more than I know.
I know more than you know because I have studied the subject in question more than you have.
This of course begs the question "and how do you know that you have studied the question more than I have?" [Let me guess, because you have reached a greater degree of certainty?] I think I will remain agnostic concerning which of us has studied the subject more. Frankly I hope it is you because I'm no longer much interested in any of it, and if I had it to over again would have put the same interest into other subjects.
(December 15, 2011 at 2:59 am)dtango Wrote: I know how the idea of the existence of a God was produced and how it had evolved.
Oh to have been there and seen so much. Exactly how long have you lived? Or do you only speculate? Now you have me curious though. Do tell, how did the idea of the existence of a god come to be? [Personally I agree with Campbell that there is something in the human psyche that gives rise to the idea or makes it appealing once the idea is out there.]
(December 15, 2011 at 2:59 am)dtango Wrote: In order for you to realize that without the proper information one may not have a proper idea of what “gods” or “God” means, I will cite a passage from the ancient Egyptian Coffin Texts and I will ask you to comment on it:
The opening passage of Spell 173 reads:
From this I take it you think it is all a bunch of shit? You have certainly identified an odd passage concerned with the after life, a subject that has always seemed absurd to me as well.
(December 15, 2011 at 2:59 am)dtango Wrote: Egyptians were the most intelligent people of the ancient world, don’t forget.
Okay I do recognize appeals to authority as a form of argument, albeit a very weak form.
(December 15, 2011 at 2:59 am)dtango Wrote:(December 15, 2011 at 12:01 am)whateverist Wrote: Like them you offer little more than "it's obvious". In my book, ridiculing the opposing view point doesn't count as an argument. Also like the Theists, you have absolute certainty in your beliefs. It will be hard for 7th degree atheists or 1st degree theists to learn and grow if they are no longer entertaining new ideas. All that certainty can really get in the way..
My certainty is based on a new idea which is the product of study. Are you interested in new ideas?
I am genuinely curious now. I confess I have turned over more than a few rocks looking for secret meanings, but there are many more I haven't touched.
