Why atheism is a belief.

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If you think a god is pointless/ridculous, outline your reasons for thinking so

Because the idea of gods is a relic of the past when people didnt know any better, when the oldest guy in town was twenty three and didnt know jack shit about anything real.

It is , in this day and age a laughable position to take.

1: There is no evidence for a god or gods

This is irrelevant and does not prove or justify anything. This argument assumes its conclusion by saying you cannot disprove something which does not exist. Without providing a valid alternative (which you should have done in point 2), you're left stranded.

So my not believing in something that has no evidence for it is an invalid position because I dont supply an alternative eh you do realise that that is a stupid thing to say dont you?

first i think that everything atributed to god came about by materialistic means, i.e. not supernaturally.

Second I didnt really have to come up with an alternative because that isnt how it works.

2: Everything that is attributed to god or gods has other explanations that better describe the observable universe.

Everything? Try the creation of existence.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7440217.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00vdkmj

Oh do keep up.

Is this where the atheist invokes a long string of gods from Norse, Greek, Jewish, Muslim faiths to discount any worldy event which can be accounted for scientifically. These elucidate nothing.

e.g As Thor has been proven to not create lightening, therefore no god exists.

What are these better explanations you speak of?

Sigh...... do I really have to give you a biology, cosmology and physics lecture.

Evolution explains animal diversity, abiogenesis explains the beginning of life, (caveat, unproven by science but a better explanation than goddidit), Cosmology explains how the stars and planets form, psychology can explain the development of morals and oher social interactions and the list goes on everything that the bible states as fact has a better explanation.

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Not at all. We just have different questions now. If you have answers please outline these. Just because some events which can be accounted for by not invoking a god, atheists seem to think this refutes a god.

It does.

So science and humanity can measure everything that is, and as it is? If you say yes you're deluded, if you say no, you have no basis for using "fact" as a basis for your position.

Science at least has the capacity to quantify everything that exists. Even if at the moment they cant quite be done yet.
To say that anything is unquantifiable by science is exactly the same as saying it is non-existant or lazy.
In theory it is very difficult to check on the multiverse theory but I bet there are people working on how to do it.

And lets remember that most of early science was a search for god. But unlike other scientific exercises when they failed to find him they moved the goal posts because the alternative seemed too much for those primitive days.

If you limit your entire life and views on what science can measure you will miss many things.

Science can measure and evaluate everything that exists.
Including emotions, Morality and feelings. (I used to work in a psychiatric Unit and they evalute these things as a matter of course).

If it cant be measured or studied it probably doesnt exist.

By openning yourself to non-existant things you live in a world of self delusion.

You have your belief, which I think is wrong - we could debate that til the cows come home.

That there are many contradcitory faiths, doesn't lend itself to meaning yours is correct.

I dont have a 'faith' I believe the universe is godless because their is no evidence for a god.
You seem to think that believeing in something simply because you want it to be true is a valid position.
it is not it is fundamentally flawed.
I'm surprised you cant see that.