RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
August 3, 2023 at 6:28 pm
(This post was last modified: August 3, 2023 at 6:45 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(August 3, 2023 at 6:11 pm)Loaded dice Wrote:(August 3, 2023 at 5:50 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Now all you have to do is to prove your god exists, ... take your time, ... and we'll be all good with this rubbish.
You're playing checkers against the demented guy in the park.
We get it's quite a challenge for you.
You're very good at these attempts at pretending you have an argument. Instead of actually responding or making an argument,
Your irrelevant blusterings are not arguments.
BTW, congratulations on all the people your religion of peace got killed by the suicide bomber in Afghanistan the other day.
It takes a lot of preliminary work to present an argument. It also takes smart and well-mannered people to understand the argument that is being presented.
I am not going to present my best work here for you to crap on it with even more Robert Spencer links, or for other morons like you to flood the thread with all kinds of anti-Islam allegations. Sometimes it only takes hours for an answer of mine to get lost in pages upon pages of insulting comments and gratuitous slurs.
Whoever made the rules of this forum did a huge a disservice to it by allowing insults and open blasphemy even in the threads made by theists. I'm convinced now there will never be a decent environment here for any kind of genuine, fruitful discussion.
Very good. Get lost. You said you're done with me, yet you aren't. Liar.
"Open blasphemy" .... LOLOL. There can be no blasphemy if there are no gods. Get it ? It's very simple.
Prove there are gods. It's a pretty sorry state that your gods are so insecure and weak, they are actually offended and have their perfection disturbed by blasphemy.
Thanks for doing EXACTLY what I said above. No arguments, just blustering rubbish.
"Oh, I have really really good arguments, but I'm not telling them to you because they might get lost". LOLOL
"Slay them wherever you find them...Idolatry is worse than carnage...Fight against them until idolatry is no more and God's religion reigns supreme." (Surah 2:190-)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you. Deal firmly with them." (Surah 9:121-)
"Fight for the cause of God with the devotion due to Him...He has given you the name of Muslims..." (Surah 22:78-)
"Blessed are the believers...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave-girls, for these are lawful to them)...These are the heirs of Paradise..." (Surah 23:1-5-)
""Muhammad is God's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (Surah 48:29)
"Fighting is obligatory for you, much as you dislike it." (Surah 2:216)
"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)
"Forbidden to you are...married women, except those you own as slaves." (Surah 4:20-, 24-)
Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)
"Make war on them until idolatry shall cease and God's religion shall reign supreme." (Surah 8:36-)
"It ill becomes the idolaters [non-Muslims] to visit the mosques of God..." (Surah 9:17)
"If you do not fight, He will punish you sternly, and replace you by other men." (Surah 9:37-)
Allah managed to hand down quite a few "revelations" that sanctioned Muhammad's personal pursuit of sex to the doubters around him.
Interestingly they have become part of the eternal, infallible word of the Qur'an, to be memorized by generations of Muslims for whom they have no possible relevance.
Qur'an (33:37) - "But when Zaid had accomplished his want of her, We gave her to you as a wife, so that there should be no difficulty for the believers in respect of the wives of their adopted sons, when they have accomplished their want of them; and Allah's command shall be performed." No doubt millions of young Muslims, trying to outdo one another at memorizing the Qur'an, have wondered about what this verse means and why it is there. In fact, this is a "revelation" of convenience that Allah just happened to hand down at a time when Muhammad lusted after his daughter-in-law, Zaynab, - a state of affairs that disturbed local customs. The verse "commands" Muhammad to marry the woman (following her husband's gracious divorce). As for why this should be part of the eternal word of God...?
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! surely We have made lawful to you your wives whom you have given their dowries, and those whom your right hand possesses out of those whom Allah has given to you as prisoners of war, and the daughters of your paternal uncles and the daughters of your paternal aunts, and the daughters of your maternal uncles and the daughters of your maternal aunts who fled with you; and a believing woman if she gave herself to the Prophet, if the Prophet desired to marry her-- specially for you, not for the (rest of) believers; We know what We have ordained for them concerning their wives and those whom their right hands possess in order that no blame may attach to you; " This is another special command that Muhammad handed down to himself that allows virtually unlimited sex, divinely sanctioned by Allah. One assumes that this "revelation" was meant to assuage some sort of disgruntlement in the community over Muhammad's hedonism.
Qur'an (33:51) - "You may put off whom you please of them, and you may take to you whom you please, and whom you desire of those whom you had separated provisionally; no blame attaches to you; this is most proper, so that their eyes may be cool and they may not grieve, and that they should be pleased" This is in reference to a situation in which Muhammad's wives were grumbling about his preference for sleeping with a slave girl (Mary the Copt) instead of them. Accordingly, Muhammad may sleep with whichever wife (or slave) he wishes without having to hear the others complain... as revealed in Allah's literal and perfect words to more than a billion Muslims.
Qur'an (66:1-5) - "O Prophet! Why ban thou that which Allah hath made lawful for thee, seeking to please thy wives?..." Another remarkable verse of sexual convenience concerns an episode in which Muhammad's wives were jealous of the attention that he was giving to a Christian slave girl. But, as he pointed out to them, to neglect the sexual availability of his slaves was against Allah's will for him!
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Allah even permitted Muhammad and his men to have sex with married slaves, such as those captured in battle.
And YOU dare talk about "morality".
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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