(December 16, 2011 at 1:18 am)chipan Wrote: that's a good point, but the fact of the matter is, science is what's proving what is in the physical world. since god is outside that, there is no way to scientifically prove that it doesn't exist, all you can do is look at the design of how living things work and they're so complicated we don't fully understand them. the big question is, how can things so complicated just occure in nature with no guidence from a designer when we can't even reproduce them with guidence? it's not just unlikely, it's insane. and if in fact these things couldn't just happen in nature and they had to built by someone the question then is who? well it would have to be something outside this universe sense everything in the universe has a beginning and an end which refers us to the theory of an inteligent designer outside our universe. that's how it can be proven right and try to refute this point without personal insults and i will agnolage all valid points.
Nothing suggests that god created anything. You haven't demonstrated that a god exists yet. A does not prove B without first proving A.
Also just because you may not understand how things come together and work doesn't mean that some god did it. Just because we don't know what caused X doesn't make Y the default answer.
Instead of asserting the unsupported and improbable, work with what you know now (which isn't much apparently).
You can't just assert that god is the reason for anything, it's like me asserting that Thor or Zeus or fairies created everything. Until you can demonstrate that a god exists, your assertion that it's all designed and created by it/him is utterly worthless. No use to us, provides no understanding. No value or explanatory power. Just because you can't comprehend how nature works don't mean it's not true. The universe won't rearrange itself just so we can comprehend it.
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.
Mankind's intelligence walks hand in hand with it's stupidity.
Being an atheist says nothing about your overall intelligence, it just means you don't believe in god. Atheists can be as bright as any scientist and as stupid as any creationist.
You never really know just how stupid someone is, until you've argued with them.