(November 21, 2011 at 11:21 am)Norfolk And Chance Wrote:(November 21, 2011 at 9:06 am)Justtristo Wrote: I am what you consider a gnostic or strong atheist, in that I know god/s do not exist. Because the existence of any kind of deity can be tested scientifically (god hypothesis) and that hypothesis would be rejected. I came to this position after reading Victor Stenger (In particular his book God The Failed Hypothesis). A book which in my opinion is much superior than The God Delusion.
I dont knock those who are agnostic atheists, however I just go a little step further that is all.
Exactly. Many atheists are frightened to claim to "know" there is no god, even though it's absolutely obvious there is no god. They'd rather err on the side of caution so they have the upper hand in debate, and some maybe genuinely can't be sure and won't commit to sureity based on scientific principle, which is understandable.
However, the way I look at it, is if theists can know god exists then atheists can take the contrary position and know no god, and at least the atheist has a valid reason to claim to know there is no god - NO EVIDENCE = NO GOD!
That is how I feel. I dismiss completely the idea of Gods existing. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that all of the world's religions are myths and bad ones at that.
There is no god, but I do think there is a Santa or at least I am open to the idea.
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