(August 19, 2023 at 1:57 am)Barry Wrote:(August 18, 2023 at 10:40 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote: The universe has likely always existed in one form or another.
What are the origins, if any? We don't know...
...yet!
And that "yet", to me, is the important part.
Our knowledge of the universe expands almost daily, and none of it points to deities.
And while it's a cliche, it is also true: if everything had to have a creator, so did your deity, and all the others.
Hi TV
Likely is a vague word. Yes you don’t know, “yet”. Nothing we learn about our universe explains its origin, except God.
It’s logical so say there was a first cause. Outside of time. That’s what we call God.
Cheers Barry
No.
"God" does not explain the universe, or, more accurately as we are starting to learn, the multiverse.
"God" is an invention of primitive men to help explain what they didn't understand. An invention that is still thrown up by primitive men to explain gaps in our knowledge.
Gaps that are being closed every year as our knowledge grows.
Soon, the god of the gaps will have nowhere else to hide.
No, that's not logical. And something that exists outside time, outside nature, shares the same features of things that don't exist.
Finally, that's what YOU call "god". It's what I call a fictional being.
Playing Cluedo with my mum while I was at Uni:
"You did WHAT? With WHO? WHERE???"
