(August 20, 2023 at 6:17 am)Barry Wrote:(August 20, 2023 at 1:12 am)Gwaithmir Wrote: Prove it!
Hi Gwaithmir
Good point. I presume you can’t prove God doesn’t exist? So you have a problem there. The burden of proof isn’t just mine.
But let’s presume it is.
What would convince you that God exists?
Cheers Barry
No, we don't have a problem here. Logic does not require me to disprove a claim that you haven't proven to be true. The burden of proof IS yours.
Also, you presume wrongly. I CAN prove that the Christian God does not exist. To wit:
>The Christian God is defined by mainstream Christianity as being all-knowing, all-loving, all-powerful, and all just. Yet even a cursory reading of the bible reveals a God who is cruel, unjust, tyrannical, unloving and eternally vengeful. Ergo, the Christian God does not exist by reason of self-contradiction.
>An omnibenevolent, omnipotent, omniscient God, by definition, cannot create evil or permit evil to exist in the world. And yet, evil exists. Ergo, God, as he is defined by mainstream Christianity, does not exist on the grounds of self-contradiction.
>The law of conservation of matter and energy states that the total quantity of energy in the universe remains the same. Matter and energy are interchangeable, but neither can be created or destroyed. Ergo, the universe has always existed and will always exist in one form or another. God is unnecessary by the Principle of Parsimony.
>The natural histories of religions are well-documented. The behavioral causes of religions are well-known. There is no evidence that gods and religions are the products of anything other than human ingenuity and imagination. Ergo, atheism is rational and skeptically unassailable.
What would convince me that God exists? For starters, let's see God move the needle on my Yo, God! Detector.
"The world is my country; all of humanity are my brethren; and to do good deeds is my religion." (Thomas Paine)