RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions..
December 17, 2011 at 1:36 am
(This post was last modified: December 17, 2011 at 1:40 am by Perhaps.)
(December 16, 2011 at 10:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: All that matters is that you are comfortable with the language you use. I wouldn't worry too much about what I respect or what I don't. You believe this or that, that's fine. There's nothing in your beliefs (however modified) that are undeniable, un-dismissable, or immune to criticism, none of which have anything to do with respect. Here you are at AF.
Agreed.
(December 16, 2011 at 10:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Claim that any sort of god whatsoever exists and someone will crop up to remind you that you have no evidence.
If I believe that God is synonymous with the universe (or everything) then I do have ample evidence to state that everything exists. Once again, all we must realize is that we use different words to get to the same point.
(December 16, 2011 at 10:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: That the language you choose is potentially misleading, or that the concept itself is absolutely bankrupt of explanatory power, adding a name to things which have already been named.
It is my belief that it explains the unity of existence that we all share. It provides wonder, awe, beauty, etc.. Without everything, how could there be beauty? Without everything, how could there be wonder? Without everything, how could there be anything?
(December 16, 2011 at 10:10 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The pantheists god is no god at all. It's an argument or position assumed to maintain a good fuzzy feeling of warmth which stands directly in the face of anything observed, relying only on what remains unobserved. A clever redefinition of "natural" that adds nothing to our understanding of nature or "god", only a tool for the purposes I just described. Just my two cents.
The fuzzy feeling of warmth which I receive from holding my belief is one that you go without. It is something that comforts me, something that expands my emotions, something that deepens my thoughts. It does not stand in the face of anything observed, it is everything observed.
(December 16, 2011 at 11:14 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: I apologize for my attitude. My naive philosophy has found effective dualities: dual-state identity/zero-state morality. Because this duality balances my dual-state identity, I can achieve parity.
What does this mean? Everything, I'm thinking. Here, I got something for you: Panentheism
It's way better than what your working with. What I'm working with, is simulation. You know, when you read these words; your mind simulates my mind, yeah? By writing and reading these words; by reading the words I have written, the words you have replied, these simulations form.
These simulations stimulate a moral response; a deviation from zero. I know when I do "evil" or "good," "positive" or "negative;" and I am slowly building patterns of response, of my self; of others. I expect to move to a new location soon; where things shall move a little more quickly.
You know tao te ching, yeah? You know YHWH? You know America? Convergence of the emergence. Your signature speaks the wisdom of the tao. My silence has been eleven years. And the inertia of the uncertainty building with the collapse of the American empire shall carry my love to the girl I never met.
And the mind of Gaia shall emerge.
Matriarchy returns, no? The spinning of the globe, the whorl of the heavens, the patterns of sunbeam glimmered through the leaves; and always, always, empty canvas.
The age of the universe is 5.13 x 10 ^61 units of Planck time. Probability predicts a future of infinite possibility based upon mathematical chicanery; the previous number is the limit. And ever since we began, we've been doing it wrong.
When I just "did you wrong" (using the assumption of undercover Christians) I wrote this equivalence: Iam4 = YHWH = i0. That might just be the equation to destabilize the patriarchy; and end the madness. Because of our technology, it may even be possible that there may never again be such madness.
What do I know? The root. 4. 2. 1. Cesium atoms flashing 9 million or billion times a second... YHWH and the endless cycle of 0/1/2/3... that is why it always comes back. We are creatures of 1 (I am) and the 0 (the infinite) terrifies with its unknowablity. We build identity (1/2/3), these words, these diversions, these complaints; because we are programmed from birth to hunt and gather and we never consider - why?
I know why. You are what I must protect myself from. That is logic. That what I consume; is that which I deny you. And when probabilities are used? And when I am is counted in what I got? The unbalance becomes exponential; the end of time is felt, the tipping point is reached, the cascade. The burning of the world in the flame of emergence.
Because I love you, what will I deny you? Because I am zero, what infinity need I fear? If I give you what you need and so too you to I, then why die? You know they say Hitch passed away, today? But Hitch is in my heart and mind, where he always was; his locality simply went non-local.
Think for a moment on this, that in the lives of the world; the hearts and the minds; in one day Hitch is more than 43 years of Johnny Cantor.
Because Life is Identity. In the Void, discreteness does not occur. Seeing - has been deceiving - and we have been feeding the evolutionary fear of our animal with the simulation of the death of Identity... that never occurs.
Extinction as I am, or emergence as We will. That is why, no god need apply. Read the link. Be well.
I honestly wish I was able to accurately follow what you're trying to say in this comment. It's however too complex for my own understanding. One note though, your link is not to what I believe. The sub-link within that link titled pantheism is what I believe.
Brevity is the soul of wit.
