RE: Why are you (still) a Christian?
September 13, 2023 at 9:04 pm
(This post was last modified: September 13, 2023 at 9:39 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(September 9, 2023 at 12:50 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(September 5, 2023 at 5:12 am)Belacqua Wrote: It seems to me that in most times and in most places, religion is more about ritual and performance than about assent to propositions. It's something people DO.
I believe what distinguishes "spiritual" from "religious" is communal participation in worship of the Divine, through practices, such as ritual and prayer, that connect us with other believers through the Divine.
Tell that to the Desert Fathers, (many of them "hermits") and the thousands of Carthusian monks and other cloistered religious (hermits) over the centuries.
They were "united in worship" ... which now has largely been jettisoned, but it was not done always communally.
In the end do you know anything about what they ultimately believed : St. John of the Cross "The Dark Night of the Soul", St. Teresa of Avila ; "The Interior Castle", the English anonymous "The Cloud of the Unknowing", Chinese Tao mysticism, Christian (medieval) contemplative mysticism, agnostic atheism, Bernard of Clairvaux contemplative mysticism ?
They all end up in the same place. "il faut cultiver notre jardin", (as Voltaire summarized).
I think you two have a clue, but not in the end, the next step, beyond your specific POV.
My compliments for remaining here.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell
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