Why are you (still) a Christian?

[LinuxGal]

Data’s a coward and has to tap dance around the truth that his/her god created demons and satan/lucifer/devil exactly as they are.

Why dose your god have to create hateful monsters to fuck up humans Data?


WTF is the othe crap you typed out?

The Hebrew word satan means adversary, resistor. Do you understand what that means? If God had created Satan the Devil (devil means slanderer, liar) as he was then those descriptive titles wouldn't have been given to him because he wouldn't have been those things.

Help a girl out.  Show me in scripture where the devil ever lied.

Anecdotally I think that the names given us for spirit beings aren't the names they use for themselves, that is especially true of Satan. He wasn't given that name upon his creation, but only after his sin.

I can't find anywhere in scripture where Satan actually sinned.  Certainly you must not think it was in Isaiah 14:14, since you state below that passage refers to Nebuchadnezzar II. If you think it has to do with the war in heaven in Revelation 12, certainly losing a war is no sin.

Lucifer is a Latin word that means light bearer. Think lightning bug, glow worm, luciferase. The Hebrew word is הֵילֵל, hêlēl, which means shining one. The Greek Εωσφόρος Eosfóros, ho he‧o‧spho′ros, “the bringer of dawn (morn). Isaiah 14:12. It doesn't apply to Satan in this instance. Here it is referring to the Babylonian dynasty which at the time was represented by Nebuchadnezzar. So, it's talking about him and Babylon. Go back to verse 1 and read it through. The term is, if you can see by following the link above and comparing translations, a metaphor. Morning star, daystar, bringer of dawn. These terms are used in the Bible for Jesus, Satan and Nebuchadnezzar. It means a marker for change. The daystar or morning star is the last star on the horizon to appear before the dawn.

In a literary sense Satan, Nebuchadnezzar and Jesus signified change. Satan brought sin, Nebuchadnezzar brought down the rebellious Israelites who represented Jehovah's earthly kingdom and Jesus brought salvation.

I'm still trying to figure out when and where Satan actually brought sin.  Nebuchadnezzar had a strong army but he offered salvation to the Judahites for the price of tribute and the Judahites canceled their salvation subscription.  Jesus saw that operation and wanted to do the same thing, but without even putting together an army.  His solution was to offer salvation from what he would do to you in the afterlife.