RE: Why are you (still) a Christian?
September 16, 2023 at 12:42 pm
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2023 at 12:47 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(September 16, 2023 at 12:24 pm)Data Wrote:(September 16, 2023 at 11:01 am)LinuxGal Wrote: Help a girl out. Show me in scripture where the devil ever lied.
Is this something new? The name itself, devil, for one thing. that's what the word means. Common sense isn't always an oxymoron.
(September 16, 2023 at 11:01 am)LinuxGal Wrote: I can't find anywhere in scripture where Satan actually sinned.
And you know what sin means? How would I, for example, sin against you?
(September 16, 2023 at 11:01 am)LinuxGal Wrote: I'm still trying to figure out when and where Satan actually brought sin. Nebuchadnezzar had a strong army but he offered salvation to the Judahites for the price of tribute and the Judahites canceled their salvation subscription. Jesus saw that operation and wanted to do the same thing, but without even putting together an army. His solution was to offer salvation from what he would do to you in the afterlife.
Bucky?
Satan brought sin by deceiving Eve. 1 Timothy 2:14.
ETAh, and what would Jesus do to you in the afterlife, according to your self loathing traditional ideology?
And John 8:44
We know dear. That's nice. Now run along outside and play. Did you forget your pills today ?
So he claims, with no evidence.
Babble quotes are evidence of nothing.
No one here accepts the authority of the Babble.
He is so fucking stupid, he don't even get that we DO NOT accept the one thing he bases everything on, as authoritative.
In 1952, a team was set in place by the world-famous, preeminent scholar, archaeologist and pioneer discoverer of Holy Land historical sites and documents, Dr. William Foxwell Albright, the professor of Semitic languages at the Johns Hopkins University. Their job was to write criticisms and scholarly work concerning all biblical texts. The team was composed of the most respected biblical scholars in the US and Europe, including Dr. John W. Bailey, Professor Emeritus, New Testament, Berkley Baptist Divinity School, Dr Albert E. Barnett, Professor Candler School of Theology, Emory University, Dr. Walter Russell Bowel, Professor, The Protestant Episcopal Seminary, Virginia, Dr. John Bright, Professor, Union Seminary and many others.
The team of 124 clergymen and scholars came mostly from conservative, mainline universities and churches for the most part, the likes of whom will never be seen again in one place, whose names evoke the utmost and deepest respect, even if one completely disagrees with their religious views. They wrote the huge 13 volume set, now considered a valuable rare book, called "The Interpreters Bible". Today it is usually kept under lock and key in seminaries and libraries. This set includes an introduction to scholarship and looks at every single verse and word in the Bible, discusses their origins and possible meanings from various points of view. It has been updated in the 1990's, but the original scholarship is still the central fundamental summary of knowledge, which summarized scholarship from the Medieval period (1850's -1950's) and is therefore considered to be an interesting historical snapshot. It is also an assurance that these absolutely respected leading intellectuals from the 20th Century scholarship, of whom most were religious, have agreed to have each other's names associated with their own and that they felt comfortable with what each other were saying in an academic setting and commanded world-wide respect as conservative, careful, and sincere, life-long teachers, academics and scholars.
On page 15 of "The Interpreters Bible", Dr. Herbert F. Farmer, Professor of Divinity at Cambridge University wrote about the indispensability of the texts, their importance and how the "truth" of them should be approached, after an exposition of the traditional conservative Christian view of person-hood, sin and the salvific actions of Jesus (aka Yeshua ben Josef), known as "the Christ" in human history.
"The reason has to do with the evidence afforded by the texts themselves, and calls for fuller treatment. Scholarly research into the texts themselves, has convincingly shown that they cannot be accepted in detail as they stand."
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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