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The Cosmological Proof
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RE: The Cosmological Proof
Believer: The things we see around us come into being as a result of the activity of other things.  These other things are themselves the result of the activity of still other things.  But this series cannot go back to infinity.  Hence there must be a first member which is not itself caused by any preceding member, or in other words a first cause, which all men call God.  This is the cosmological proof.

Atheist: Is the first cause all powerful, all good, and personal?

Believer: Of course! He's God!

Atheist:  How does the cosmological proof necessitate an all-powerful, all good, and personal being to be the cause of the second cause?

Believer: It doesn't.  It was never intended to prove that. You need different arguments for that.

Atheist: OK.
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Messages In This Thread
The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 23, 2023 at 3:03 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 23, 2023 at 3:18 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 23, 2023 at 3:36 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 23, 2023 at 4:17 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by brewer - September 23, 2023 at 4:25 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Silver - September 23, 2023 at 3:24 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by The Grand Nudger - September 23, 2023 at 3:29 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 23, 2023 at 4:43 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Angrboda - September 23, 2023 at 6:11 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 23, 2023 at 6:14 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by arewethereyet - September 23, 2023 at 6:20 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2023 at 6:40 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 6:53 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2023 at 8:01 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 8:20 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 23, 2023 at 6:24 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by arewethereyet - September 23, 2023 at 6:28 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 23, 2023 at 6:45 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 23, 2023 at 8:38 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 23, 2023 at 9:58 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 23, 2023 at 10:05 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Anomalocaris - September 24, 2023 at 12:20 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Belacqua - September 23, 2023 at 4:33 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 23, 2023 at 5:54 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Silver - September 23, 2023 at 4:45 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Silver - September 23, 2023 at 6:30 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Silver - September 23, 2023 at 10:00 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 23, 2023 at 10:08 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 23, 2023 at 11:04 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 23, 2023 at 11:19 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 24, 2023 at 4:46 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 5:03 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2023 at 5:20 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 5:31 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2023 at 5:42 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by LinuxGal - September 24, 2023 at 12:24 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2023 at 5:18 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 5:27 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2023 at 5:44 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 5:52 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 24, 2023 at 6:33 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Silver - September 23, 2023 at 11:07 pm
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by no one - September 24, 2023 at 6:08 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by no one - September 24, 2023 at 7:44 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 7:49 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by no one - September 24, 2023 at 9:07 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 9:23 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 24, 2023 at 9:32 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 9:40 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 24, 2023 at 11:45 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by no one - September 24, 2023 at 9:27 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by no one - September 24, 2023 at 9:42 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Ahriman - September 24, 2023 at 9:58 am
RE: The Cosmological Proof - by Silver - September 24, 2023 at 11:47 am

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