(December 19, 2011 at 12:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You have no evidence for this. We have some remains that show some homo sapiens engaged in conflict with some neanderthals. Entirely unsurprising between competing creatures. No evidence for any genocide whatsoever. GarbagePossibly garbage, but you miss the main point here: you dismish a fresh idea as garbage right away.
Years ago, in Greek forums as well as in the Dawkins’ forum, I was having arguments with some guys who were adamant that Hss and Neanderthal did not interbreed and that even if Hss and Neanderthal had sexual contact, the offspring would have been sterile. In mythology gods fall in love with giantesses and women and they have kids and these kids produce more mixed blood kids and no problem is mentioned.
I did believe the myth and I was right.
According to the myth the gods, in the case of the Norse mythology, the Arch-murderer Hercules assisted by the gods in the Greek mythology, the men in the Hebrew, Native American and Celtic mythology, killed the giants. So in this particular subject I am dogmatic: The Hss did exterminate the Neanderthals!
(December 19, 2011 at 12:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: I'm a fan of the narrative in and of itself as well, though not a fan of the concepts described or the way in which they have been leveraged. The OT has not shown itself to be reliable, it has shown itself to be the opposite.I insist that we do not know yet enough of our past.
In the narrative of the OT what is of value are those stories in there that seem quite unreasonable. Why did those responsible for the texts allow, for example, the story where the wife of the patriarch urges her husband to go and have a son with her maid? Or why allow to remain the story of the incest?
If you have a guide to go by, a base where to stand, you can reach down to the original story, the story which the scholars knew because at their time the oral traditions were not yet forgotten. The story that should not be told!
By saying that myth is the product of imagination we deprive humanity of what memories it may have from its past. Thirty thousand years ago our ancestors lived side by side with the Neanderthals. Did they forget them entirely?
For almost 40,000 years they were producing Venus figurines. Why not transmitting along with the story of the worshipped Mother the story of their encounter with Neanderthals?
(December 19, 2011 at 12:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You have no idea how any god acted either, it's absurd to claim that you do. Unless you have evidence?
Will the LORD be pleased with thousands of rams, with ten thousand rivers of oil? Shall I offer my firstborn for my transgression, the fruit of my body for the sin of my soul? (Micah 6:7)
In this case we cannot blame the class of the priests (either Hebrew or Greek) because they both made an effort to teach the people that the deity could be satisfied with an animal and there was no longer need to kill their firstborn (the cases of Iphigenia and Isaak)
You find out the way in which the gods behaved by the way people were acting.
Why was it that the gods wanted the firstborns killed?
According to the Sumerian texts the gods produced men by using the famous Mother-wombs. One way of acquiring these women was by kidnapping. As a rule they used virgin women so that they could be certain that they will bear their own children (the gods’ chilsren) and not their previous lovers’.
But it was not possible to steal only virgin women. The solution to this problem: the first kid to be born by a non-virgin woman in captivity shall be exterminated.
(December 19, 2011 at 12:55 pm)Rhythm Wrote: You have no evidence that these are anything more than stories, and yet you continue to draw conclusions based upon your fantasy.Interesting stories, though, aren’t they?
Only it is a pity because the conclusions were supposed to drive crazy the theists, not the atheists too.
