Well, as others may have said...
In terms of sex and pregnancy being voluntary, in most cases, only sex is the voluntary thing here. Pregnancy itself may not be voluntary, as Thumpalumpacus said. In fact, it might be unexpected. In the case of condoms, women can still get pregnant, since condoms do not work half the time. Plus, there is rape to be considered too, which is not voluntary. A woman has to give consent to a man to have sex for it to be considered sex instead of rape, otherwise, it is forced, and not welcome.
I also think some people do not know what genocide is when it comes to abortion. Not only is a fetus still a fetus, a non-living thing, but genocide is the killing of people of a certain group that is composed of already born, living people. Hamas beheading and killing babies and children is more genocidal than a bunch of fetuses that are unborn being aborted, if you can call the latter genocidal at all. A fetus is still part of a woman's body, so a woman should have say on what to do with it. The fetus cannot exercise many rights anyway, if any at all, and a fetus should not be given priority over an adult mother, who is a woman, and women have had to deal with suppression from men who exert power over them, and those women had to fight to get their rights over the years. a fetus cannot really do that, so that is a reason why it is not a person.
As for the forced vaccination comparison, the person who made that comparison, Dimitry1983, is comparing apples to oranges. First, those are mandates, and mandates, as well as laws, are imposed by the government to keep people safe. In fact, without government, there will only be just the people, and that leads to anarchy, which the founding fathers of the USA feared, by the way. Mandates keep us safe, or else people would not know what to do, and that would lead to many people getting themselves harmed or others harmed. As for the second amendment, the right to bear arms, that has been abused lately. Many people have shown to be irresponsible with guns, and in the USA, we have had over 36 mass shootings this year alone. The right to bear arms has nothing to do with abortions, which are not necessarily forced. An abortion is of a woman's choice, normally, and they should have that right. It is not the same as killing living people at all with guns, which is against the law, and abortion is only stopping a fetus from developing, and it really is not alive in the first place. Forced vaccines and the second amendment have nothing to do with abortions, and not everyone is responsible to exercise their rights or keep themselves safe. Besides, mandates are usually temporary, are they not?
I think you don't know how many people are responsible in the USA, Dimitry. Besides, banning abortions is a regression, a reactionary move by the Supreme Court justices; something that should not happen in the USA. The United States Supreme Court needs reform and newly enforced limits on Supreme Court Justices (like removing the "being a Justice for life" part), anyway.
In terms of sex and pregnancy being voluntary, in most cases, only sex is the voluntary thing here. Pregnancy itself may not be voluntary, as Thumpalumpacus said. In fact, it might be unexpected. In the case of condoms, women can still get pregnant, since condoms do not work half the time. Plus, there is rape to be considered too, which is not voluntary. A woman has to give consent to a man to have sex for it to be considered sex instead of rape, otherwise, it is forced, and not welcome.
I also think some people do not know what genocide is when it comes to abortion. Not only is a fetus still a fetus, a non-living thing, but genocide is the killing of people of a certain group that is composed of already born, living people. Hamas beheading and killing babies and children is more genocidal than a bunch of fetuses that are unborn being aborted, if you can call the latter genocidal at all. A fetus is still part of a woman's body, so a woman should have say on what to do with it. The fetus cannot exercise many rights anyway, if any at all, and a fetus should not be given priority over an adult mother, who is a woman, and women have had to deal with suppression from men who exert power over them, and those women had to fight to get their rights over the years. a fetus cannot really do that, so that is a reason why it is not a person.
As for the forced vaccination comparison, the person who made that comparison, Dimitry1983, is comparing apples to oranges. First, those are mandates, and mandates, as well as laws, are imposed by the government to keep people safe. In fact, without government, there will only be just the people, and that leads to anarchy, which the founding fathers of the USA feared, by the way. Mandates keep us safe, or else people would not know what to do, and that would lead to many people getting themselves harmed or others harmed. As for the second amendment, the right to bear arms, that has been abused lately. Many people have shown to be irresponsible with guns, and in the USA, we have had over 36 mass shootings this year alone. The right to bear arms has nothing to do with abortions, which are not necessarily forced. An abortion is of a woman's choice, normally, and they should have that right. It is not the same as killing living people at all with guns, which is against the law, and abortion is only stopping a fetus from developing, and it really is not alive in the first place. Forced vaccines and the second amendment have nothing to do with abortions, and not everyone is responsible to exercise their rights or keep themselves safe. Besides, mandates are usually temporary, are they not?
I think you don't know how many people are responsible in the USA, Dimitry. Besides, banning abortions is a regression, a reactionary move by the Supreme Court justices; something that should not happen in the USA. The United States Supreme Court needs reform and newly enforced limits on Supreme Court Justices (like removing the "being a Justice for life" part), anyway.
