(November 27, 2023 at 4:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: "Doing alot of work" as in a short declarative that's hiding a laundry list of assumptions. For example. Our current understanding of reality is post-christian. If an idea fitting with our current understanding of reality is one of your metrics then christianity fails. Somehow...though, I think you must mean something else and a whole lot else. You're not here to tell us how christianity fails as an idea because it does not represent our current understanding of reality.Ah, very good point. Thank you for correcting me.
Part of me wants to qualify the “current understanding of reality,” since our current understanding is pretty messed up. However, we’ll go the other way. Each side of the “equation,” Christian ideas and post-christian understanding, has to stand up to the same metric.
(November 27, 2023 at 4:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Pick anyone, really. Especially if you think they had less of some x. It's fairly easy to see how even small things can multiply into larger difficulties.Cool. I pick atheism.
(November 27, 2023 at 4:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: No typo, stressing the word for a different sense. Natural theology tells us about natures god - or so it says...but..perhaps., it just tells us about nature? When we ask ourselves "What do we worship?" -The thing that created us. Well..that'd be nature. It really did that and I think it's pretty amazing. Ape thinks apes are cool, go figure. When we try to imagine the powers that gods have we imagine them as having the power of storms and floods and meteors and plagues and earthquakes - but also of life and babies and growth and wealth - whatever that means to us. Of terror and of beauty. Well, that's nature again. All of that.Is it condescending to say that you are poetic? Probably. Never mind.
Yes, Nature is amazing. What created Nature?
(November 27, 2023 at 4:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Every religion has a vision of how the world should be. It usually isn't that way when we formulate the idea, lol.lol, no, it isn’t! I’m not sure how the world should be is Theology. Not trying to be pedantic here. You’re talking about Natural Theology in which we use our reason to know things about God. I don’t think (could be wrong) it would take us to the level of what the world should be. I think it stops at reasoning that there is a spirit being and some things about it. If you want, I can do some research to see how, or if, Natural Theology goes farther.
(November 27, 2023 at 4:53 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Stuff getting eaten alive asshole first on a good day.That’s a good day?! Yikes!