Libertarian left and right

[The Grand Nudger]

I agree in the scene that no one can "own" land cause we are not immortal, the land with be there much longer then we.

If we claim unoccupied land, and produce, and contribute some of our crops back to the people, I see no reason to be not allowed to "own" the land. We own it as long as we produce it.
We are using the earth as indented.
Big co-op farms would be a nice idea, people live and work on their land and x amount of families could live in the area and produce the land. Keep a % for themselves and give a % to the non farmers. In return get non farm related products.
Land grabs should be illegal, how can the government say that a Wal-mart parking lot is needed by the community? If anything it hurts the community, but it keeps the dollars rolling. Damn money!

True, I am not immortal, but I hope that my family as a whole is, that we are here until none of us are left. In that sense it would be my family that owned the land, with me as a steward for as long as I lived and was capable. That's how I was raised, you buy land, you never relinquish it. It is not profit, but a small world for you to mold into a good life for you and yours. I don't know that I'm on board with owning entire states that sit useless (as has been the case in the past with land ownership..and in some places still is the case). I'd still be compelled to try it though, greedy..lol.

I'd like to mention that the idea of producing from land and offering a percentage of the proceeds to the community in return for off farm goods is exactly how it's done currently (though most times the community is not willing to offer the kinds of assurances that processors and middle men are, or the price when balanced against cost of retail). It's simply very difficult to carry around eight tons of grain as currency. So the grain is traded in for a more convenient token, which represents the labor and investment that the farmer has made and is now offering to those around him. I mean, if someone wanted to trade a wooden rocking chair for a few bushels of tomatoes I'm all for it (I've done that before). It would just get very tedious when you consider the amount and weight of the things that come off of even a moderate piece of land. We're talking tons and tons of food per acre with even the slightest bit of management.

All of the money involved in producing something off of the land happens in the walmart parking lot. The farmer may get payed 4 or 5 cents for a tomato you're about to pay $1.59 for. In that I can agree with you that the walmart parking lot doesn't help anyone all that much. However, the walmart parking lot is a very useful piece of our overall system of food distribution. In that respect it's nearly priceless. Consider making a journey, LoTR style, to the opposite hemisphere to get a tomato out of season. Thats the only real alternative under the current system, which heavily favours large single points of distrubution to make the logistics affordable. Affordable being relative...remember, 4 cents to $1.59.... If food production were more compact, efficient, and more technologically developed (the inputs are usually cutting edge but the system is very much like the ones we have leveraged since the middle ages) we could perhaps produce closer to the point of sale (or trade if you prefer). Small scale local production on a global, commercial scale..hehehe.

I'm of the opinion that fixing food would fix a whole host of other problems best described as political or social problems as an afterthought, but I'm biased.