Hi Belacqua,
Thanks for the post. Two things before I respond.
First, to make the conversation more manageable, I’m going to break this into two parts, this one about the quote and another about the article it came from.
Second,let me emphasize that I don’t really have an endpoint for this conversation, regardless of what nwansdastfu thinks. I think the conversation itself can be fruitful.
I agree, too, that it has shaped our behavior. (in my pop-philosophy way) It’s almost a paradigm shift in how we think of ourselves and others. The separation between our will and reality – as I understand it begun by Descartes, Nietzsche, etc. – is very easy, too easy, to do on the web.
Online gaming is a good example of this. We create our own reality. Ready Player One and Free Guy both used this idea. But it happens here, too. People spew vitriol on social media that they would be embarrassed to say in real life. When we detach our will from reality, we lose a lot of what makes us human.
Your point about the risks is important. The scams that we get trapped in are so easy because of the internet. Men impersonating young kids to get other kids to trust them can happen much easier with the internet. This quote is naming this phenomenon in philosophical terms but we’ve all seen the effects.
Thanks for the post. Two things before I respond.
First, to make the conversation more manageable, I’m going to break this into two parts, this one about the quote and another about the article it came from.
Second,let me emphasize that I don’t really have an endpoint for this conversation, regardless of what nwansdastfu thinks. I think the conversation itself can be fruitful.
(January 6, 2024 at 1:16 am)Belacqua Wrote:I agree that there’s a lot of good on the “world wide internet computer web” (as Monk would say). I probably don’t go 5 minutes without using it. Even when I mow the lawn I’m listening to music or a podcast from the net.(January 5, 2024 at 7:52 pm)SimpleCaveman Wrote: What do you think about this description? How much do you see this playing out?
I think there's a lot of truth in what he says.
And I'm sure he acknowledges that the Internet has many legitimate and helpful uses. After all, he has agreed to have his interview put on the Internet.
We all make use of maps and databases and things like that. Find a medical specialist near you, all that.
But there's no doubt that the Internet has shaped people's behavior and encouraged undesirable things as well.
I agree, too, that it has shaped our behavior. (in my pop-philosophy way) It’s almost a paradigm shift in how we think of ourselves and others. The separation between our will and reality – as I understand it begun by Descartes, Nietzsche, etc. – is very easy, too easy, to do on the web.
Online gaming is a good example of this. We create our own reality. Ready Player One and Free Guy both used this idea. But it happens here, too. People spew vitriol on social media that they would be embarrassed to say in real life. When we detach our will from reality, we lose a lot of what makes us human.
Your point about the risks is important. The scams that we get trapped in are so easy because of the internet. Men impersonating young kids to get other kids to trust them can happen much easier with the internet. This quote is naming this phenomenon in philosophical terms but we’ve all seen the effects.
