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Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real?
Hi Foxaèr,

(January 26, 2024 at 3:28 pm)Foxaèr Wrote: Since theists can never seem to be capable of adequately defining god, they cannot really state with certainty thing is not a defining quality.
There is truth in theists not being able to adequately define god. Though I am a theist, I am trying to not come at this from that perspective but keeping it philosophical. (Or, at best, pop-philosophical)

And then we have to ask if thing is a defining quality of A (we don’t have to call it god), what does it mean to be a thing? Keeping in the same line as before, I take thing to mean something of this universe whether it’s quantum foam or latte foam. If that’s not what TGN meant, then I may need to adjust my statements.

If that’s what it means to be a thing and thing is a defining quality of A (god), then I, a pop-philosopher who is looking for the origin of all things, have to ask where did A come from? It’s still part of this universe and it can’t make itself. The essence of my latte is not to exist. Its existence doesn’t come from its ultimate nature. Its existence is conditional because it exists because of other things.

Now, if there is a part of this universe that comes from itself, or can make itself in some way, that would be interesting! What is there whose essence is existence? Whose existence is unconditional? I think that’s what that branch of philosophy is looking for. It would be even more interesting if that thing was then the source of all other things.

Pax et bonum



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RE: Dear Atheists: what would convince you God/Christ is Real? - by SimpleCaveman - January 26, 2024 at 4:53 pm

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