(December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm)Shell B Wrote: Is this thread on random?
No, it is testing the knowledge of the “nothing knowing” agnostics.
Besides, you can start a new thread using these last posts.
(December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Is it childish, Tango? He was very aware of the circum-stances, as well as the historical milieu.
“Yahweh's demonic intention was magically thwarted by the rite of circumcision”
For God’ sake, pal! That is something quite ridiculous for a university professor to say. The man quoted those who studied the texts. He did not read the texts himself
(December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Why don't you send your stuff to Boston, or Cincinnati, and see what their Egyptology departments make of it? Better yet, look into publishing it in a real, peer-reviewed journal, like ARCE or JEA?
Will you translate for me? I do evaluate my English when I read my writings some time after they were written.
(December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm)Epimethean Wrote: By the way, your reference to Achilles is inaccurate. He was entirely mortal. Better to have used Herakles, whose mortal flesh had to be burnt off in order for him to become fully a god.
Herakles was trying to become a god by doing the dirty work of the gods, Listen to a similar “hero,” but Egyptian this one:
I have carried out your slaughtering, you gods,
I have taken those who rebelled against you,
I have been placed in the rank of Nile-god.
[…]
They see me in the rank of Nile-god, for indeed I am a young god.(The Coffin Texts, Spell 317, translated by Faulkner)
Achilles case is the same as the one of the little Demophon whom Demeter tried to make a god by putting him on the fire and there is a similar myth about Isis.
Do not expect scholars to make anything out of these stories without reading and studying the funerary texts.
Surely you know the “Papyrus of Any” on which many chapters of the Book of the Dead are written. Well, the text says that in order for Any not to be killed “Sad.tw” was cut off his “XpA”. This word Wallis Budge translates as “corruptible matter,” obviously having in mind the mortal parts that the goddesses were trying to remove from the bodies of the infants. The word “XpA” occurs either determined with the ideogram for the flesh or with an ideogram which according to the “Gammar” is used for words denoting bodily growths or conditions especially of a morbid kind, exx. “wound”, “disease”, “navel”, “fat”, “swell”, also “excrement”.
OK, let us go a bit more deeper: The …bodily growths that had to be removed in order for the man being judged to survive were the bodily traits of the primitives, the “nnw”.
Now, what were the parents of the infants, for thousands of years and in both sides of the Atlantic, trying to achieve by deforming the skulls of their kids? Most probably they were trying to reduce the size of the supraorbital archs. Which is an act that hints at what?
The judgement’s aim was to locate the humans among the sub-human primitives. Thus those found to be human were thought as having had their primitive traits removed.
I regret to have to say that, as regards religion and mythology, your beloved scholars are but great great ignoramuses.
"Culture is memory"
Yuri Lotman
Yuri Lotman
