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RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions..
(December 24, 2011 at 2:54 pm)Epimethean Wrote: Where do you get the notion that light skinned people originated in South Africa? Certainly, the research now suggests that it was from South Africa that the original modern man came (http://news.stanford.edu/news/2011/march...30411.html), but as far as skin color, please share your source for "whites" coming originally from that region, since the science is still out on exactly how white skin came to exist and what we do know seems to suggest it is likely to have developed north of the Equator due to environmental adaptations.

Let us begin with the main line of modern reasoning:
Gods are today regarded as being immaterial and therefore were thus regarded at all times!
Native Africans are today blacks therefore native Africans were at all times black!

I read the article you suggested and apart from lack of any reference to skin colour I was impressed by the insistence of geneticists to disregard the conclusions paleoanthropologists have come to (something that they did in the case of the interbreeding between Hss and Neandethals). Microlithic assemblages are the work of modern humans and although South African fossils such as Klasies River Mouth have not been classified as “modern” the presence of microlithic assemblages in South African sites is evidence of presence of Hss in the area.

Anyhow, read the following abstract on the Florisbad cranium (the emphasis is mine)

Quote:The human cranium recovered at Florisbad in 1932 is compared with other Sub-Saharan African hominid remains from Broken Hill, the Omo and Klasies River Mouth. The Florisbad frontal is very broad, but despite this breadth and differences in zygomatic form, there is a definite resemblance to archaic Homo sapiens from Broken Hill. There is also some similarity to both Omo I and Omo II, while fragmentary remains from Klasies River are more lightly built and hence more modern in appearance. These impressions are strengthened by measurement and statistical analysis, which demonstrates that Florisbad and Broken Hill are distant from recent African populations. Even if Florisbad is less archaic than the earlier (Middle Pleistocene?) hominid, it is not noticeably Bushman-like. New dates suggestive of early Upper Pleistocene antiquity also place Florisbad securely in a lineage containing Broken Hill, and there is no evidence to support special ties with any one group of living Africans.(Wiley online library)

The first Australian Aborigines reached Australia 55,000 or even 60,000 years ago. How do we know that it was not at that time that the blacks moved into South Africa as the whites moved out?

Chinese and Japanese have skin of the same colour as the Caucasian whites. Why did they not develope blue eyes as well?

(December 24, 2011 at 5:01 pm)houseofcantor Wrote: While my research is minimal, I'm gonna go with clothing being responsible for white skin.

Oh, my dear Irish friend, you will have to find an excuse for the black people living in South Africa clothed (Cape town is on Latitude 34 South while Malta and Crete Islands are located in virtually the same latitude but in the northern hemisphere) and keeping their deep dark colour as well as for the natives living in the area of Cape Horn (having a latitude of 56S that equals the latitude of Kopenhagen) and still keeping their original light dark colour and dark-coloured eyes.

I think we must be very careful when dealing with scientific myths because they seem to be fairy tales to a degree far more superior to that of the traditional myths.

Tests of the American army proved that dark skinned people absorb too much radiation in lower latitudes resulting in overheating and loss of strength.
Black people were not made for sunny climates. Melanin is there to protect the skin, not to overdo it and turn it into black.

@ Epimethean
Do you think that the races were already developed at the stage of Homo erectus, as the multiregional model suggests, or not?
African Homo erectus was quite different from Asian Homo erectus. Did they both belong to the same race? There is still so much we do not know. How can we be so sure that the original natives of Africa were black?

P.S. What a Christmas present (this off-topic post) for Shell-B! Tongue

"Culture is memory"

Yuri Lotman


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Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions thread's landfill - by dtango - December 17, 2011 at 3:48 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 17, 2011 at 10:03 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 17, 2011 at 11:08 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 17, 2011 at 2:58 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 17, 2011 at 3:01 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 18, 2011 at 2:43 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 18, 2011 at 11:29 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 18, 2011 at 12:29 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 18, 2011 at 4:28 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 18, 2011 at 4:37 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2011 at 7:06 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 19, 2011 at 1:05 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 19, 2011 at 4:03 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 19, 2011 at 4:27 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 19, 2011 at 11:40 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 19, 2011 at 12:24 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 19, 2011 at 12:39 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 19, 2011 at 12:55 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 20, 2011 at 2:06 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 2:10 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 20, 2011 at 3:47 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 3:49 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 20, 2011 at 5:02 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 20, 2011 at 5:12 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 5:15 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 11:00 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 20, 2011 at 11:26 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 20, 2011 at 11:49 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 12:19 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 20, 2011 at 2:48 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 20, 2011 at 3:13 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 20, 2011 at 3:41 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 20, 2011 at 6:40 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 2:25 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by houseofcantor - December 21, 2011 at 2:26 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 2:49 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 3:32 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 21, 2011 at 7:30 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 7:32 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 9:27 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 11:16 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 21, 2011 at 11:23 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 12:00 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 21, 2011 at 12:08 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by 5thHorseman - December 21, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 12:15 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 21, 2011 at 12:22 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 21, 2011 at 2:16 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 21, 2011 at 2:21 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 2:26 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 21, 2011 at 2:33 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 21, 2011 at 2:39 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Darwinning - December 21, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 22, 2011 at 4:36 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 22, 2011 at 10:09 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 23, 2011 at 12:04 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 23, 2011 at 12:10 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 23, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 23, 2011 at 5:05 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 5:35 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by HeyItsZeus - December 23, 2011 at 10:27 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by The Grand Nudger - December 23, 2011 at 10:30 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 12:02 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 24, 2011 at 6:30 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 24, 2011 at 8:17 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 8:53 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 9:13 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 9:17 am
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 24, 2011 at 2:08 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by houseofcantor - December 24, 2011 at 5:01 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 24, 2011 at 5:04 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Epimethean - December 24, 2011 at 5:32 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by Shell B - December 24, 2011 at 6:02 pm
RE: Agnostic Atheism? Your opinions.. - by dtango - December 25, 2011 at 5:25 am

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