(May 19, 2024 at 11:50 pm)Nay_Sayer Wrote:Currently, the Garden of Eden is at the bottom of the Persian Gulf. Genesis 2 describes four known rivers flowing out from named locations—in the mountains of Arabia and the mountains surrounding Mesopotamia—and meeting together in the Garden of Eden(May 19, 2024 at 10:32 pm)Ferrocyanide Wrote: There is a few problems with your claim.
First, let's see what the Bible says
The above is interpreted to mean that there is 1 river. Some think its starting point is the tree of life. Once it exists the garden of Eden, it splits into 4.
It is after that that you have 4 rivers and a name for each.
I’m not sure how 4 rivers become one during an ice age. Can you explain?
The people who wrote these stories were not geographers. They did not travel around to figure out the coordinates of a river.
In fact, Tigris and Euphrates merge together in Iraq. I think this was Assyria back then.
You can see it on a map here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garden_of_Eden
The writers of these stories are heavy into religion and light on facts.
So, the story is made up and this is why people have been having a hard time finding these mysterious rivers. Pison and Gihon.
As for 130,000 to 32,000 y ago, there was no jewish culture, no greek culture and probably the same goes for all the others. I’m guessing they were just a few tribes living in the Mesopotamia area.
None of them recorded an ice age.
Let’s put it this way. The people from 5000 BCE have no info about 10,000 BCE and before.
They don't even know when it was figured out how to make importing things like copper, zinc, tin, pots, cloths, needles, knives, arrows.
I remember reading about Plato’s story about Atlantis. He claims that the story comes from his great-great-grandfather or something who heard it from some other greek who heard it from another and goes all the way back from greeks from 10,000 y before Plato’s time.
But there is no greek from that time period.
No evidence of an Atlantis either.
only about 1.6% of human history is recorded.
The only time these rivers can join together on dry land is when most of the Persian Gulf is dry. The drying up of most of the Persian Gulf requires that Earth be in an ice age.
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.